ONLY ONE GOSPEL ?

[douge]

Holding to the notion that only one gospel was preached throughout scripture has implications.

Matthew 28:16 Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them.

28:17 And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted.

28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

If, as some say, there is only one gospel preached by Jesus, the twelve, and Paul, then not only the gospel taught the disciples is to be believed, but we have to observe, and do, all Jesus commanded them according to Matthew 28:20.

Jesus taught them the gospel of the kingdom (Matthew 4:23), saying in Mark 1:14-15 the time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand. That time was the promised kingdom on earth, in which, Christ and the remnant of Israel would reign on earth. Since this gospel was taught by Christ, and we are commanded to teach all he taught, we would have to likewise, wrongly preach this gospel.

The fact that Christ commanded all to observe all things would not allow one to say, we rightly divide scripture, and certain teachings were only to be fulfilled by those disciples, and therefore do not apply to us. It is either we correctly rightly divide scripture, or we obey all of it.

It would be correct to rightly divide, as Christ, in verse 16, was only commanding the eleven disciples.

[douge]

17 hours ago, SONshine said:

Absolutely!  Only ONE Gospel.  What does it mean to preach the Gospel?  It means to preach everything Jesus taught.  .…and you know where it’s written?  It’s all written in God’s Word. 

Matthew 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:

Matthew 10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

If we are to preach all Jesus taught, why would we not preach this? Would we not say we can not go to the Gentiles ? Would we not only go to the Jews?

[Who me]

1 hour ago, douge said:

we are to preach all Jesus taught, why would we not preach this? Would we not say we can not go to the Gentiles ? Would we not only go to the Jews?

 

Because as you very well know. That command was for the apostles at that time for that preaching mission.

Later Jesus told them to go into All the world.

[douge]

7 hours ago, Who me said:

 

Because as you very well know. That command was for the apostles at that time for that preaching mission.

Later Jesus told them to go into All the world.

Here is the verse under consideration again:

Matthew 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

Did not Jesus say they were to teach that ALL THINGS commanded be observed by those being taught? How could you say Matthew 10:5-6 are exempt. Where does the verse say this verse applied only to that time when verse 20 speaks of the end of the world?

The only way to handle this verse is to rightly divide scripture and acknowledge there was another gospel here and commandments given to specific people. This is what you are doing above and rightly so.

[Who me]

10 hours ago, douge said:

 

Did not Jesus say they were to teach that ALL THINGS commanded be observed by those being taught? How could you say Matthew 10:5-6 are exempt. Where does the verse say this verse applied only to that time when verse 20 speaks of the end of the world?

 

I have not said these verse were except, they clearly relate to Jesus sending his disciples out to preach in the town's etc in Israel.

This was not the only mission they were to do. Jesus in Matt 10:18 says you will be brought before governors and kings and be a witness to the gentiles.

They witnessed to Israel untill after they recieved the baptism of the spirit and the start of perscution sent them into the Roman world.

[Justin Adams]

This kind of post confuses me. There is ONE Gospel, ONE Christ, ONE God and ONE Holy Spirit.

Yeshua demonstrated this Himself, by talking to the woman at the well scene and the casting out of legion's demons. He showed that He was Lord of all the nations. Even the centurion's daughter was not an Israeli. It is clear that God was guiding the initial ministry of Yeshua. In the sending out of the 70 God indicated ALL NATIONS scattered at Babel (see the table of nations) were His inheritance. He began the regathering during Yeshua's ministry.

Later, to really get the point home, Cornelius and family had the Holy Spirit fall on them before anything much happened. After this they were all baptized etc.

God NEVER varied His approach and the promise made to Abraham, "thru you I will bless all nations" was always true and shows He is working in the background.

[Marathoner]

The OP would do well to acquaint themselves with the scriptures where it is written:

For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

(Galatians 3:26-29)

There is no confusion in the Lord. 

[Marathoner]

On 7/13/2020 at 7:53 AM, douge said:

Matthew 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:

Matthew 10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

If we are to preach all Jesus taught, why would we not preach this? Would we not say we can not go to the Gentiles ? Would we not only go to the Jews?

You would profit greatly from reading the scriptures prayerfully, my friend. If one were to continue reading Matthew they would encounter the answer to this question five chapters later, personified in the example of the Canaanite woman.  Matthew 15:22-28:

And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil.

But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us.

Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me.

But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs.

And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table.

Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour.

 

If that isn't sufficient to answer the confusion there's the example of the centurion from Matthew 8 and the Samaritan woman by the well from the 4th chapter of John. During the time which the Word made flesh prepared to do His work upon the cross He didn't send the disciples to preach to gentiles; however, scripture records that He visited them Himself like He did in Samaria. 

[Justin Adams]

8 minutes ago, Marathoner said:

scripture records that He visited them Himself like He did in Samaria. 

Before Yeshua (as God) could send them out, they had to wait in Jerusalem for the Spirit. Pentecost.

But Yeshua Himself did lots of healing and ministering to the 'other nations' prior to the Cross. After the Cross, the Principalities and Powers had their mandate rescinded. The apostles were now able to tell the gentiles and pagans they could ditch their pantheons and worship the One True God that made heaven and earth. It was a radical change in the power structure and began the healing of a fractured cosmos. Gen 3 (death gone). Gen 6 (angelic aberrations gone). Deut 32 (the regathering of the nations scattered at Babel).

All as planned from before the beginning.

[Marathoner]

46 minutes ago, Justin Adams said:

Before Yeshua (as God) could send them out, they had to wait in Jerusalem for the Spirit. Pentecost.

But Yeshua Himself did lots of healing and ministering to the 'other nations' prior to the Cross. After the Cross, the Principalities and Powers had their mandate rescinded. The apostles were now able to tell the gentiles and pagans they could ditch their pantheons and worship the One True God that made heaven and earth. It was a radical change in the power structure and began the healing of a fractured cosmos. Gen 3 (death gone). Gen 6 (angelic aberrations gone). Deut 32 (the regathering of the nations scattered at Babel).

All as planned from before the beginning.

Thank you for sharing that, Justin Adams, and well said. The prophets by the Holy Spirit foretold of the multitude from every tongue (language) and tribe (nation) as revealed in the 7th chapter of Revelation, gathered into the Lamb and giving praise to our God. That is certainly a fulfillment of Deuteronomy 32. The first eight verses of Isaiah 56 come to my mind of which I'll share verses six through eight:

Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the Lord, to serve him, and to love the name of the Lord, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant;

Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer: their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar; for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.

The Lord God, which gathereth the outcasts of Israel saith, Yet will I gather others to him, beside those that are gathered unto him.

Just as you wrote this has been the Lord's plan from before the beginning.