Fiction or prophetic

[missmuffet]

21 hours ago, Mike Mclees said:

I must apologize for I have family also. You are right. God is in charge and we can only pray for loved ones. 

How ever about your usage of 7 year tribulation is not correct. We as being the church have been in tribulation for 2000 years since the church was born at Pentecost. This is biblically fact according to Jesus and also Paul. 2 Timothy  3:12 

John 16:33  Jesus said to the disciples .   I have told you these thing that in me you may have peace. In the world you will have tribulation .

How is it you say  7 years tribulation.  Why is it not said anythung about the 3&1/2 years called great tribulation after the abomination of desolation.

In Matt 24 Jesus quoted Daniel  which we find in Daniel 9: 27  And he ( the antichrist) shall confirm the covenant with many for one week (7 years) of peace in the mist of the week when he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease. ( brakes his covenant) for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate. This is because he will be of great power and authority on the earth. 

This abomination of desolation will bring on  " the great tribulation" during the last half of the 7 year peace. 3&1/2 years. 

This is confirmed in Dan 7:25which states the church will be persecuted for 3&1/2 years by the antichrist. 

So all this says is the tribulation of the church has happening for 200o years and when the antichrist commits the abomination of desolation. the final GREAT TRIBULATION begins in the final 3&1/2 years. 

Now you need to go to REV 15: 2 where you find 0the overcomers are being glorified for holding to their faith while suffering at the hands of the antichrist even unto the death.

You  are being duped by pre trib preachers. 

How do I know this? I was a pre-triber  also until  challenged to find the bedrock the doctrine stands on.  There is none.  You will never find two different classes of saints, one's who suffer 7 years and ones who don't. that get off free.  This is not biblical  Check my scripture out because I am telling you the truth.  If you find the non suffering saints in scripture please be sure to let me know. I can tell you now though you will not find anything that supports it. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Apparently you are not pre-tribulation. Time will tell. 

[Son of Israel]

Mat 6:34  Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.

Rom_13:11  And that, knowing the time, that NOW it is high time to awake out of sleep: for NOW is our salvation nearer than when we believed.

2Co_6:2  (For he saith, I have heard thee in a time accepted, and in the day of salvation have I succoured thee: behold, NOW is the accepted time; behold, NOW is the day of salvation.)

1Pe 5:10  But the God of all grace, who hath called us unto his eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after that ye have suffered a while, make you perfect, stablish, strengthen, settle you. 
1Pe 5:11  To him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

[Mike Mclees]

1 hour ago, missmuffet said:

Apparently you are not pre-tribulation. Time will tell. 

I thought it was already obvious. Many who believe in the pre-trib doctrine will  be shaken in the day of revelation of reality and truth to find that they are staring into the eye's of the  antichrist. 

Edited July 18, 2020 by Mike Mclees

[Mike Mclees]

51 minutes ago, Son of Israel said:

Mat 6:34  Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.

Rom_13:11  And that, knowing the time, that NOW it is high time to awake out of sleep: for NOW is our salvation nearer than when we believed.

2Co_6:2  (For he saith, I have heard thee in a time accepted, and in the day of salvation have I succoured thee: behold, NOW is the accepted time; behold, NOW is the day of salvation.)

1Pe 5:10  But the God of all grace, who hath called us unto his eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after that ye have suffered a while, make you perfect, stablish, strengthen, settle you. 
1Pe 5:11  To him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

2 Corinthians 6:2 is a sign taped to my  car bumper

 grace be to you my brother

[Son of Israel]

13 minutes ago, Mike Mclees said:

I thought it was already obvious. Many who believe in the pre-trib doctrine will  be shaken in the day of revelation and truth to find that they are staring into the eye's of the  antichrist. 

Before receiving Christ Come, every time I looked into the mirror I WAS staring into the eyes of antichrist.   

...until I received Christ Come in my flesh

2Jn 1:7  For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. 
2Jn 1:8  Look to yourselves...

Now that I have confessed and received Christ Come in my flesh, here I AM! 

(1Jn 4:2)  Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:

1Jn 4:4  Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because >>>greater is he that is in you,<<< than he that is in the world. 

Thank you Jesus for Coming in my flesh!