DeighAnn Posted August 12, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 84 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 6,301 Content Per Day: 3.60 Reputation: 1,658 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/31/2019 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 12, 2020 2 hours ago, iamlamad said: the Lords Day What on earth does this MEAN? I will search KJV: There is only one: Revelation 1:10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet, What is the meaning of this? It is very simple: He was in the Spirit on a SUNDAY. Plain and simple. Perhaps you meant: "Day of His wrath" "Day of the Lord" Both of these are titles of the same period of time. "Tribulation" "70th week" Here is what Webster's has to say about the Day of the Lord: Definition of day of the Lord a day inaugurating the eternal universal rule of God: a: in the Old Testament : an eschatological day of ultimate judgment bringing final deliverance or doom — called also day of Yahweh b: in the New Testament : the triumphant day of Christ's return to earth in glory I would immediately disagree with Webster's because the Day of the Lord (told many times in the Old - is still future to us in the New: therefore the Old Testament definition also fits the New. From now on, if you wish to use "the Lord's day," limit that to a Sunday. If you are really meaning "the Day of the Lord," then use that term so we know what you are meaning. Who is Websters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abcdef Posted August 12, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,405 Content Per Day: 0.93 Reputation: 135 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/19/2020 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/14/1951 Share Posted August 12, 2020 4 hours ago, DeighAnn said: It seems once THE DIVIDING BEGINS, it just can't stop. First is the division of the Lords Day Then is the division of the churches Here the division of the saints Yet, NO DIVISION of the Tribulation and Wrath of God? Saints 1 Corinthians 1:2 Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both their's and our's: Greek To the church of God being in Corinth, having been sanctiffied in Christ Jesus called holy, together with all those calling on the name of the Lord of us Jesus Christ in every place both theirs and ours Romans 16:2 That ye receive her in the Lord, as becometh saints, and that ye assist her in whatsoever business she hath need of you: for she hath been a succourer of many, and of myself also. That her you might receive in{the} Lord worthily of the saints (40) 40 hagios sacred, holy set apart by (or for) God, Philipians 4:21 Salute every saint (40) in Christ Jesus. The brethren which are with me greet you. 40 hagios sacred, holy set apart by (or for) God, Hagios properly DIFFERENT (UNLIKE) OTHER , HOLY, FOR THE BELIEVER "LIKENESS OF NATURE WITH THE lORD because different from the world different from THE WORLD , because like the Lord distinct i.e. BECAUSE SPECIAL TO THE LORD The souls of the OT are also considered saints. "Saints" can be OT or NT, and this factor should be considered and determined in the context. (Especially prophecy) "Saints", does not exclusively apply to the members of the kingdom/church of the NT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamlamad Posted August 12, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 8,272 Content Per Day: 2.07 Reputation: 689 Days Won: 4 Joined: 06/09/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted August 12, 2020 58 minutes ago, DeighAnn said: Who is Websters? Merriam-Webster Dictionary Webster's Dictionary is any of the dictionaries edited by Noah Webster in the early nineteenth century, and numerous related or unrelated dictionaries that have adopted the Webster's name. "Webster's" has become a genericized trademark in the U.S. for dictionaries of the English language, and is widely used in English dictionary titles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamlamad Posted August 12, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 8,272 Content Per Day: 2.07 Reputation: 689 Days Won: 4 Joined: 06/09/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted August 12, 2020 44 minutes ago, abcdef said: The souls of the OT are also considered saints. "Saints" can be OT or NT, and this factor should be considered and determined in the context. (Especially prophecy) "Saints", does not exclusively apply to the members of the kingdom/church of the NT. This is very true: thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamlamad Posted August 12, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 8,272 Content Per Day: 2.07 Reputation: 689 Days Won: 4 Joined: 06/09/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted August 12, 2020 3 hours ago, Justin Adams said: The first century Jews considered the Lord's Day as being the Sabbath. I think the church considered it the day Jesus rose from the dead: Sunday. They already had a day to worship: the Sabboth. I think they coined "the Lord's day" to differentiate from the Sabbath. Just my opinion. But Wikipedia agrees: "The Lord's Day in Christianity is generally Sunday, the principal day of communal worship. It is observed by most Christians as the weekly memorial of the resurrection of Jesus Christ, who is said in some of the canonical Gospels to have been witnessed alive from the dead early on the first day of the week." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spock Posted August 13, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 29 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,239 Content Per Day: 0.85 Reputation: 1,686 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/26/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted August 13, 2020 Hey iamlad, if you don’t mind, I would like for you to make a case against my thinking below. Ready.... I’m thinking.... 1. The 4 horsemen and the 5th seal were released when Jesus ascended to heaven and have been going throughout the world for the past 2000. 2. The seals are basically the birth pains from Matthew 24 3. The Bible doesn’t say the church is exempt from the entire week of Daniel 70, only the wrath of God. Therefore, the only guarantee we have is that the church will be lifted out before the releasing of the trumpets and bowls. 4. Just because the 70th week is for Israel and Jerusalem doesn’t necessarily mean the church has to be gone before the week begins. 5. the confirmation of a covenant begins the 70th week, not the rapture. 6. the only guarantee the Bible says is that the church won’t be here during the great tribulation (second 3.5 years). The Bible doesn’t say anything about the entire week (7 years) being tribulation. 7. People who believe in a Pre tribulation rapture actually believe in a Pre 70th week rapture. Thus, they should change their label to Pre 70th week rapture instead. Looking forward to your responses. Thanks for doing this. It may help me sort out some confusion I’m experiencing. This may also lead to further thoughts and questions. spock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeauJangles Posted August 13, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 43 Topic Count: 229 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 10,900 Content Per Day: 2.91 Reputation: 12,145 Days Won: 68 Joined: 02/13/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/14/1954 Share Posted August 13, 2020 16 minutes ago, Spock said: spock Bro, WHERE have you been? Now, c'mere and I gives ya a big ol' hug! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spock Posted August 13, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 29 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,239 Content Per Day: 0.85 Reputation: 1,686 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/26/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted August 13, 2020 46 minutes ago, BeauJangles said: Bro, WHERE have you been? Now, c'mere and I gives ya a big ol' hug! ?. Greetings friend. I apologize for bopping in and out. I read a lot...novels, scripture, bible prophecy books and articles....and sometimes all that reading means something has to go. Thanks for honoring me by missing me. I always come back though because of great people like you. cheers, spock back for now 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Adams Posted August 13, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 25 Topic Count: 61 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 9,606 Content Per Day: 3.94 Reputation: 7,798 Days Won: 21 Joined: 09/11/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted August 13, 2020 9 hours ago, iamlamad said: I think the church considered it the day Jesus rose from the dead: Sunday. They already had a day to worship: the Sabboth. I think they coined "the Lord's day" to differentiate from the Sabbath. Just my opinion. But Wikipedia agrees: "The Lord's Day in Christianity is generally Sunday, the principal day of communal worship. It is observed by most Christians as the weekly memorial of the resurrection of Jesus Christ, who is said in some of the canonical Gospels to have been witnessed alive from the dead early on the first day of the week." Wed Nisan 14 thru Sabbath Nisan 17. The rest is RCC and other traditions only. miatonsabbaton2.doc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamlamad Posted August 13, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 8,272 Content Per Day: 2.07 Reputation: 689 Days Won: 4 Joined: 06/09/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted August 13, 2020 8 hours ago, Justin Adams said: Wed Nisan 14 thru Sabbath Nisan 17. The rest is RCC and other traditions only. miatonsabbaton2.docUnavailable This may well be true, but John called SOME day of the week "the Lord's Day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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