The Pre Tribulation Raptured Church

[iamlamad]

30 minutes ago, DeighAnn said:

I am thinking by now you are realizing that nothing you say is close to WHAT IS WRITTEN.  I am also thinking that those "good" teachers AREN'T. 

ANY ONE who can read Gods words and call them a myth is not a teacher of Gods Word.  
 

Genesis 6:1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,

Genesis 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

 

Psalm 33:11 The counsel of the LORD standeth for ever, the thoughts of his heart to all generations.

Psalm 33:12 Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD; and the people whom he hath chosen for his own inheritance.

Psalm 33:13 The LORD looketh from heaven; he beholdeth all the sons of men.

Psalm 33:14 From the place of his habitation he looketh upon all the inhabitants of the earth.

Psalm 33:15 He fashioneth their hearts alike; he considereth all their works.

Psalm 33:16 There is no king saved by the multitude of an host: a mighty man is not delivered by much strength.

Psalm 33:17 An horse is a vain thing for safety: neither shall he deliver any by his great strength.

Psalm 33:18 Behold, the eye of the LORD is upon them that fear him, upon them that hope in his mercy;

Psalm 33:19 To deliver their soul from death, and to keep them alive in famine.

Genesis 6:3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

Genesis 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

Genesis 6:5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

Genesis 6:6 And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

Genesis 6:7 And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.

Jude 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

Jude 1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

Jude 1:13 Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever
Jude 1:14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,

 

Genesis 5:24 And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.



Enoch, Noahs great grand father how many years separated them 

 

 

I am thinking by now you are realizing that nothing you say is close to WHAT IS WRITTEN.  It seems all some can do here is just blow smoke. I copied the word of God phrase by phrase. I KNOW it is what is written: copy and paste is error free! It seems the problem is, some just cannot believe what is written; they have their OWN theories, such as fallen angels when Jesus never mentioned such a thing. 

ANY ONE who can read Gods words and call them a myth is not a teacher of Gods Word.    I agree: Jesus spoke of people just living normal lives, eating, sleeping, drinking, marrying, etc, and in ONE DAY gone from this world; but someone wants to add to that "fallen angels. "

Genesis 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

Sons of God: MEN, flesh and blood MEN that were living for God. But they (Like Samson) lusted after women that did NOT follow God. 

⁴ There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. 

Read this and tell us what came first: giants or men from the Godly line of people lusting after women from those who did not follow God. WHICH came first?

Just where are those angels that left their first estate?

[iamlamad]

1 hour ago, DeighAnn said:

Genesis 18:1 And the LORD appeared unto him in the plains of Mamre: and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day;

Genesis 18:2 And he lift up his eyes and looked, and, lo, three men stood by him: and when he saw them, he ran to meet them from the tent door, and bowed himself toward the ground,

Genesis 18:3 And said, My LORD, if now I have found favour in thy sight, pass not away, I pray thee, from thy servant:

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Genesis 18:33 And the LORD went his way, as soon as he had left communing with Abraham: and Abraham returned unto his place.

Chapter Nineteen


Genesis 19:1 And there came two angels to Sodom at even; and Lot sat in the gate of Sodom: and Lot seeing them rose up to meet them; and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground;

Genesis 19:2 And he said, Behold now, my lords, turn in, I pray you, into your servant's house, and tarry all night, and wash your feet, and ye shall rise up early, and go on your ways. And they said, Nay; but we will abide in the street all night.

Genesis 19:3 And he pressed upon them greatly; and they turned in unto him, and entered into his house; and he made them a feast, and did bake unleavened bread, and they did eat.

Genesis 19:4 But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter:

Genesis 19:5 And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.
Comprenez vous "sodomy"  

Genesis 19:6 And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him,

Genesis 19:7 And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly.

Genesis 19:8 Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof.

Genesis 19:9 And they said, Stand back. And they said again, This one fellow came in to sojourn, and he will needs be a judge: now will we deal worse with thee, than with them. And they pressed sore upon the man, even Lot, and came near to break the door.

Genesis 19:10 But the men put forth their hand, and pulled Lot into the house to them, and shut to the door.

Genesis 19:11 And they smote the men that were at the door of the house with blindness, both small and great: so that they wearied themselves to find the door.

Genesis 19:12 And the men said unto Lot, Hast thou here any besides? son in law, and thy sons, and thy daughters, and whatsoever thou hast in the city, bring them out of this place:

Genesis 19:13 For we will destroy this place, because the cry of them is waxen great before the face of the LORD; and the LORD hath sent us to destroy it.

Genesis 19:14 And Lot went out, and spake unto his sons in law, which married his daughters, and said, Up, get you out of this place; for the LORD will destroy this city. But he seemed as one that mocked unto his sons in law.

Genesis 19:15 And when the morning arose, then the angels hastened Lot, saying, Arise, take thy wife, and thy two daughters, which are here; lest thou be consumed in the iniquity of the city.

Genesis 19:16 And while he lingered, the men laid hold upon his hand, and upon the hand of his wife, and upon the hand of his two daughters; the LORD being merciful unto him: and they brought him forth, and set him without the city.

Genesis 19:17 And it came to pass, when they had brought them forth abroad, that he said, Escape for thy life; look not behind thee, neither stay thou in all the plain; escape to the mountain, lest thou be consumed.

Genesis 19:18 And Lot said unto them, Oh, not so, my LORD:

Genesis 19:19 Behold now, thy servant hath found grace in thy sight, and thou hast magnified thy mercy, which thou hast shewed unto me in saving my life; and I cannot escape to the mountain, lest some evil take me, and I die:

Genesis 19:20 Behold now, this city is near to flee unto, and it is a little one: Oh, let me escape thither, (is it not a little one?) and my soul shall live.

Genesis 19:21 And he said unto him, See, I have accepted thee concerning this thing also, that I will not overthrow this city, for the which thou hast spoken.

Genesis 19:22 Haste thee, escape thither; for I cannot do anything till thou be come thither. Therefore the name of the city was called Zoar.

Genesis 19:23 The sun was risen upon the earth when Lot entered into Zoar.

Genesis 19:24 Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven;

Genesis 19:25 And he overthrew those cities, and all the plain, and all the inhabitants of the cities, and that which grew upon the ground.

Genesis 19:26 But his wife looked back from behind him, and she became a pillar of salt.

Genesis 19:27 And Abraham gat up early in the morning to the place where he stood before the LORD:

Genesis 19:28 And he looked toward Sodom and Gomorrah, and toward all the land of the plain, and beheld, and, lo, the smoke of the country went up as the smoke of a furnace.

Genesis 19:29 And it came to pass, when God destroyed the cities of the plain, that God remembered Abraham, and sent Lot out of the midst of the overthrow, when he overthrew the cities in the which Lot dwelt.


NOW IF THIS SEEMS LIKE EVERYDAY NORMAL BEHAVIOUR TO YOU,  I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY.

  I DO KNOW HOW GOD FEELS ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON, HE MAKES IT SUPER CLEAR.  


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Jude 1:1 Jude, the servant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James, to them that are sanctified by God the Father, and preserved in Jesus Christ, and called:
Jude 1:2 Mercy unto you, and peace, and love, be multiplied.

Jude 1:3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.

Jude 1:4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

Jude 1:5 I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not.


 

Jude 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.




yet another subject we have touched on, the difference between the grave, paradise and under darkness that you believe are all one

Jude 1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

Jude 1:8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.

Jude 1:9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

Jude 1:10 But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.

Jude 1:11 Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.

Jude 1:12 These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;

Jude 1:13 Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.


 

Jude 1:14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,





IT JUST CAN'T BE THAT THAT PRE TRIB RAP THEORY GETS LEFT OUT YET ONCE AGAIN. 
AND RIGHT BEFORE THE BOOK OF REVELATION.  HOW IS IT POSSIBLE IT IS NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER MENTIONED IN THE WORD OF GOD???????   WHILE AT THE SAME TIME THE LORD COMETH WITH 10 THOUSANDS OF HIS SAINT TO EXECUTE JUDGMENT UPON ALL, AGAIN.  SO WE NOW KNOW FOR SURE WHEN HE COMES WITH HIS SAINTS IT IS TO EXECUTE JUDGMENT.  YOU WOULD HAVE TO BE BLIND NOT TO SEE IT.  

Jude 1:15 To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.

Jude 1:16 These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.

Jude 1:17 But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;

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Jude 1:21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.

AND HERE AGAIN, LIKE IT JUST DOESN'T EXIST.  HOW MANY TIMES THAT IS SHOULD BE MENTIONED AND ISN'T BEFORE IT BECOMES CLEAR THAT IT REALLY AND TRULY ISN'T?  HOW MANY TIMES DO YOU NEED TO NOT SEE IT BEFORE YOU BELEIVE IT ISN'T??

Jude 1:22 And of some have compassion, making a difference:

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Jude 1:25 To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.

SO WHAT HAVE WE LEARNED? 


IT WASN'T SUDDENLY AND WITHOUT WARNING IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM.  
 

After all this and you still don't get it! All those people in Sodom and Gomorrah woke up one morning thinking this day would be just like yesterday. Yet, before the day was over, they were all dead. They did not know what God was planing. Apparently they did not know that two men were really TWO ANGELS. But Jesus point is made: they were living normal lives, eating, drinking, (It is what normal people do) but sometime in ONE NORMAL day, SUDDENLY fire and brimstone began to fall. Oh, that was with NO WARNING. This is why Jesus was telling us: those people in those two cities had NO idea that before that day was out they would all be dead.

When Jesus comes FOR His saints: the dead in Christ will rise, causing a massive, worldwide earthquake: Paul's sudden destruction. One moment all on the earth will be living NORMAL lives; the next moment, and massive, worldwide earthquake that no one can escape.  But those caught up DO escape. It is the rapture.

Remember, we are talking about Noah and His day, how they all died in one day, and about Lot, and how they all died in one day, and both with no warning. (Remember, those in Noah's day had never seen rain.)  You are approaching this from God's side of things. OF COURSE it was no surprise to God! What are you thinking?  Jesus was talking from the PEOPLE's point of view. They were living normal lives - right up until they all died. 

With all your arguments, please tell us: do you imagine there will be a WARNING just before the rapture?

How about a warning just before Jesus comes as in Rev. 19? Is that what you are trying to tell us - that God is going to give warnings: perhaps send an angel and say "TOMORROW CHRIST COMES!" Sorry, there is no such scripture. 

T JUST CAN'T BE THAT THAT PRE TRIB RAP THEORY GETS LEFT OUT YET ONCE AGAIN. 

Why not? Jesus was talking to Jewish people about the end of THEIR age. Why would ANYONE expect He would talk of a church that did not yet exist? It was JEWISH men that asked Him about the end of THEIR age.

Let me help you out: if you wish to read about the rapture, go to PAUL! He is the one writer of the NT that received the revelation of the rapture. You won't find the rapture in the gospels. 

I have no argument that in Rev. 19 He is coming to Judgment.  Why can't YOU see that in 1 Thes. 4 He is coming for His church?

You amaze me. You seem to think you know; but in truth, you don't. 

[DeighAnn]

32 minutes ago, Revelation Man said:

Rev. 4 and 5 is the Church as seen n Heaven BEFORE the Seals are opened.

No, no church here.  

Revelation 4:1 After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.

Revelation 4:2 And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and One sat on the throne.

Revelation 4:3 And He that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone: and there was a rainbow round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald.

Revelation 4:4 And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold.
IF I WAS FORCED INTO A GUESS I WOULD SAY THE 24 HERE ARE THE 12 SONS OF JACOB AND THE 12 APOSTLES, BUT THAT IS JUST A GUESS BECAUSE I HAVE TO FACTOR IN ABRAHAM, MOSES, ELIJAH, ENOCH, JACOB, ISSAC, DAVID, SOLOMON, ISAIAH, EZEKIEL, PAUL, JEREMIAH  YOU GET THE PICTURE

Revelation 4:5 And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.

Revelation 4:6 And before the throne there was a sea of glass like unto crystal: and in the midst of the throne, and round about the throne, were four beasts full of eyes before and behind.

Revelation 4:7 And the first beast was like a lion, and the second beast like a calf, and the third beast had a face as a man, and the fourth beast was like a flying eagle.

Revelation 4:8 And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, LORD God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.

Revelation 4:9 And when those beasts give glory and honour and thanks to him that sat on the throne, who liveth for ever and ever,

Revelation 4:10 The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that liveth for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying,

Revelation 4:11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour andpower: for Thou hast created all things, and for Thy pleasure they are and were created.

Revelation 5:1 And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals.

Revelation 5:2 And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof?

Revelation 5:3 And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon.

Revelation 5:4 And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon.

Revelation 5:5 And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.

Revelation 5:6 And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.

Revelation 5:7 And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.

Revelation 5:8 And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints.

Revelation 5:9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
PROVING GOD IS THE GOD OF THE LIVING AND NOT THE DEAD, SO MANY HAVE SLEPT IN CHRIST, THESE ARE THOSE HE WILL BRING BACK WITH HIM AND THAT IS WHERE  AND WHEN WE WILL MEET  BACK UP WITH THEM AGAIN ON THE LORDS DAY.  

Revelation 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

Revelation 5:11 And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands;

WHICH WOULD CERTAINLY COVER THE NUMBER OF THOSE WHO HAVE LIVED over THE LAST 6000 YEARS.  Sands of the sea, stars of the sky, dust of the earth.................

WHAT WOULD BE THE POINT OF A FEW BILLION MORE in heaven AT THAT TIME ?  A blink of an eye later they are all coming to earth for the millennium,   FOLLOWED BY THE ETERNAL KINGDOM.  

LETS SEE IF I HAVE YOU AND THAT THEORY  CORRECT  

TEN THOUSAND TIMES TEN THOUSAND AND THOUSANDS OF THOUSANDS ARE GOING TO LEAVE HEAVEN TO COME TO THE ATMOSPHERE OF THE EARTH

DROPPING OFF 2

PICK UP 2 BILLION MORE

GO BACK TO HEAVEN

WAIT UNTIL THE 2 ARE KILLED

THEN   
THE  TEN THOUSAND TIMES TEN THOUSAND AND THOUSANDS OF THOUSANDS PLUS 2 BILLION ARE GOING  TO COME BACK 
 
AND THE LORDS DAY WILL BEGIN.   

CORRECT??

AT THE SAME TIME OR IN THE MIDDLE OF ALL THIS THERE IS A WAR GOING ON IN HEAVEN AND SATAN IS GOING TO BE KICKED OUT TO EARTH,
ALL THE WHILE JESUS REMAINS OUR MEDIATOR, AT THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD

CORRECT??

EVEN THOUGH until the tribulation is ended THERE WILL BE SERVANTS OF GOD ON earth still  IN THE FIELD serving God.   


HERE IS MY UNDERSTANDING

EVERYONE IN HEAVEN STAYS IN HEAVEN  
EVERYONE ON EARTH STAYS ON EARTH   
THE 2 COME TO EARTH 
THE TRIBULATION HAPPENS, SATAN KICKED DOWN 
THE 2 ARE KILLED
AT WHICH TIME THOSE IN HEAVEN COME TO EARTH FOR THE LORDS DAY FOLLOWED WITH THE ETERNAL KINGDOM.HERE ON EARTH

WHICH IS WHY ON THE LORDS DAY  IT IS NECESSARY FOR THOSE ON EARTH WHO HAVE NOT RECEIVED THE MARK, THOSE WHO ARE ALIVE AND REMAIN TO BE CHANGED.  (flesh and blood can not... and that is what is arriving)


ONLY ONE TIME WILL A PEOPLE BE TRANSLATED,  AND THAT IS AT THE LAST SECOND   -  TO END   -  THE AGE.    IT HAS TO HAPPEN THAT WAY AS THERE IS NO OTHER WAY,  EXCEPT ALL ON EARTH DYING WHEN CHRIST RETURNS BECAUSE 

FLESH AND BLOOD CAN NOT INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD. AND THAT KINGDOM IS ARRIVING.  
 

Revelation 5:12 Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing.

Revelation 5:13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.

Revelation 5:14 And the four beasts said, Amen. And the four and twenty elders fell down and worshipped him that liveth for ever and ever.

[DeighAnn]

1 hour ago, Revelation Man said:

7.) Feast of Tabernacle (To tabernacle means to DWELL WITH God, after Israel ATONES/Repents, and then Jesus returns, where does he reign for 1000 years? From Jerusalem !! So, everyone of the 7 Feasts tells us a Story/History of the world via SHADOWS. )

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What about at the end of the 1000 years when Satan is let loose again.   There is a definite harvest then, wouldn't you say? 

 I mean that 2nd death day and for those who escape it,  I think is going to be a great big harvest, don't you think?  Isn't that when

Revelation 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

Revelation 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

Revelation 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Revelation 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and Him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

Revelation 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

 

And we finally see Gods Throne, and now on earth judgment.



And no new heaven and earth until after that, so it must be figured in, correct?  

[DeighAnn]

1 hour ago, Revelation Man said:

The Last Trump has nothing to do with the Judgment Trumps at all. 

NOT  for you APPARENTLY. 


YOU SEE NO RELATIONSHIP HERE?

 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying,


The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

in an instant, in the twinkling of an eye at the last trumpet. The trumpet will sound for and the dead will be raised imperishable and we will be changed


Greek  
1 Corinthians 15:52

last 2078  eschatos

last, extreme

last, at the last, finally, till the end

properly last, final (the furthest extreme end )
 

[DeighAnn]

1 hour ago, iamlamad said:

I am thinking by now you are realizing that nothing you say is close to WHAT IS WRITTEN.  It seems all some can do here is just blow smoke. I copied the word of God phrase by phrase. I KNOW it is what is written: copy and paste is error free! It seems the problem is, some just cannot believe what is written; they have their OWN theories, such as fallen angels when Jesus never mentioned such a thing. 

ANY ONE who can read Gods words and call them a myth is not a teacher of Gods Word.    I agree: Jesus spoke of people just living normal lives, eating, sleeping, drinking, marrying, etc, and in ONE DAY gone from this world; but someone wants to add to that "fallen angels. "

Genesis 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

Sons of God: MEN, flesh and blood MEN that were living for God. But they (Like Samson) lusted after women that did NOT follow God. 

⁴ There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. 

Read this and tell us what came first: giants or men from the Godly line of people lusting after women from those who did not follow God. WHICH came first?

Just where are those angels that left their first estate?

Jude 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

 

 

[DeighAnn]

1 hour ago, iamlamad said:

Genesis 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men

OPEN WIDE   DAUGHTERS OF MEN, IF IT WEREN'T ANGELS IT WOULD BE SONS OF MEN.  

DID YOU READ THE WHOLE STORY?  SONS OF GOD AND DAUGHTERS OF MEN AND THEN
WHAM
MIGHTY MIGHTY EVIL.  SO YOU,  THINK HUMM,  IS GOD MAKING ME THINK RIGHT HERE.  HE HAS NEVER BEFORE SPOKEN THIS WAY.  THIS IS DIVERGING FROM THE NORMAL  

ALL OF A SUDDEN WE HAVE GIANTS, AND MIGHTY EVIL. AND I AM DONE.  

[iamlamad]

29 minutes ago, DeighAnn said:

OPEN WIDE   DAUGHTERS OF MEN, IF IT WEREN'T ANGELS IT WOULD BE SONS OF MEN.  

DID YOU READ THE WHOLE STORY?  SONS OF GOD AND DAUGHTERS OF MEN AND THEN
WHAM
MIGHTY MIGHTY EVIL.  SO YOU,  THINK HUMM,  IS GOD MAKING ME THINK RIGHT HERE.  HE HAS NEVER BEFORE SPOKEN THIS WAY.  THIS IS DIVERGING FROM THE NORMAL  

ALL OF A SUDDEN WE HAVE GIANTS, AND MIGHTY EVIL. AND I AM DONE.  

NOT "all fo a sudden." Read it again:  ⁴ There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men...

 

Which came first: the giants or the sons of God and daughters of men?

[iamlamad]

39 minutes ago, DeighAnn said:

Jude 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

 

 

Good: you see they are LOCKED UP and can do NOTHING on earth. 

[iamlamad]

43 minutes ago, DeighAnn said:

NOT  for you APPARENTLY. 


YOU SEE NO RELATIONSHIP HERE?

 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying,


The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

in an instant, in the twinkling of an eye at the last trumpet. The trumpet will sound for and the dead will be raised imperishable and we will be changed


Greek  
1 Corinthians 15:52

last 2078  eschatos

last, extreme

last, at the last, finally, till the end

properly last, final (the furthest extreme end )
 

DeighAnn, people have been trying to make the 7th trumpet into the "last trump" for hundreds of years. All anyone has done is suggest, for there is no proof at all, and MUCH proof it is not. The "last trump" will CERTAINLY be the last trumpet of the church age.

Do you believe 1 Christ 15, where "at the last trump" is written, is the same event as the 1 Thes. 4 rapture? Most people think these two scriptures are talking about the rapture. I certain agree; Paul wrote both passages and both are about the rapture.

The question is, does PAUL tell us when? I submit he DOES tell us when. Just three verses after his classic rapture verse, Paul brings up the Day of theh Lord, just as if there is a connection. Then Paul talks about wrath in relation to the sudden Destruction, just as if there is a connection. 

The truth is, Jesus coming is the trigger for the rapture:

Then the rapture is the trigger for the start of the DAY of the LORD and His wrath.

Both come as a thief: HE comes as a thief,, so the DAY comes as a thief. The point is, the rapture MUST COME a moment before the start of the Day of the Lord, for HIS COMING (as a thief) will be the trigger for the start of the Day of the Lord. 

So WHERE in Revelation is the start of the Day of the Lord? It is only found once and that at the 6th seal. Just so you know, the 6th seal will be opened over 3 1/2 years before the 7th trumpet. 

So, as you can see, the "last trump" at the rapture Cannot POSSIBLY be the 7th trumpet: they will happen over 3 1/2 years apart. And there simply is NO COMING at the 7th trumpet. 

One more of your theories proven wrong by scripture.