Jonah's short journey??

[CaptWalker]

Well i was recently looking at a map of ancient middle east trying find the exact location of Nineveh and discovered it was actually over 500 miles from the nearest port, either on the Black Sea or Mediterranean. So my question is how did Jonah get there so quickly, apparently arriving on the first day after the whale "dropped him off"??? The only thing i can think of is maybe there was a river such as the Tigris/Euphrates that was accessible to the sea in those days, but has long since been dried up? Other than that i can only guess it was one of those "catching away" events such as what happened to Philip in Acts 8:39-40?  (BTW-Mosul,Iraq is where the ruins of Nineveh are today, and there is actually a mosque there named after the Prophet Jonah).

Edited August 9, 2020 by CaptWalker

[Knotical]

Chapter 3 indicates that Nineveh has a 3 day's walk from where he ended up.  Not a day.

The time it took for him to walk through the city was one day's walk.

Edited August 9, 2020 by Knotical

[BeauJangles]

31 minutes ago, Knotical said:

Chapter 3 indicates that Nineveh has a 3 day's walk from where he ended up.  Not a day.

The time it took for him to walk through the city was one day's walk.

Jonah also looked a wreck after being undigested in the stomach lining of the great fish and he was drenched in bile, disgusting fish phlegm, and other acidic upper intestinal juices. Yes, he was a real mess! So, first he needed a new robe, sandals, and head covering. Also a shampoo, rinse, conditioner, set, and style, was essential before being allowed in to see the king of Nineveh. Otherwise, he wouldn't have been presentable. No one gets to see his Majesty of Nineveh looking like a tramp on the streets. They would have probably thrown him out the palace!

 

Edited August 9, 2020 by BeauJangles

[BeauJangles]

Jonah's short journey??

1 hour ago, CaptWalker said:

Well i was recently looking at a map of ancient middle east trying find the exact location of Nineveh and discovered it was actually over 500 miles from the nearest port, either on the Black Sea or Mediterranean.

 

1 hour ago, Knotical said:

Chapter 3 indicates that Nineveh has a 3 day's walk from where he ended up.  Not a day.

The time it took for him to walk through the city was one day's walk.

Here are a few interesting links. Scratch #1. Irrelevant. 

 

1. Distance between Israel and Nineveh

   distancebetween.info/israel/nineveh

   Nineveh is a USA city located at the longitude of -80.320185 and latitude of 39.949115. The total distance between Israel and Nineveh is 9643 KM (kilometers) and 936.79 meters. The mile based measurement distance is 5992.5 miles Israel direction from Nineveh:

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2. Distance between Nineveh city Wall, Mosul, Iraq and ...

   https://distcalculator.com/distance-between/250330/...

   Driving distance between Nineveh city Wall, Mosul, Iraq and Nazareth, Israel is calculated by google maps and it is 99 mi.. You need 2 hour to reach Nazareth, Israel from Nineveh city Wall, Mosul, Iraq , if you are travelling by car.. Average amount of gas with an average car when travelling from Nineveh city Wall, Mosul, Iraq to Nazareth, Israel will be 7 gallons gallons which costs 10 $.

3. Nineveh | History, Map, & Significance | Britannica

   https://www.britannica.com/place/Nineveh-ancient-city-Iraq

   Nineveh, the oldest and most-populous city of the ancient Assyrian empire, situated on the east bank of the Tigris River and encircled by the modern city of Mosul, Iraq. It was located at the intersection of important trade routes and its proximity to the Tigris added to the value of the fertile lands in the district.

4. [PDF]

   JONAH LOcATION MAp Search Maps - VISUAL UNIT

   https://visualunit.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/jonah_map2.pdf

   Nineveh Tarshish? JUDAH ISRAEL ASSYRIA Mediterranean Sea THE MISSION THE FLIGHT JONAH LOcATION MAp Search Maps Show search options BABYLONIA TURKEY EGYPT SPAIN FRANCE ITALY Gath-hepher The Assyrian king (3:6) The great fish (1:17) The Temple (2:4,7)

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5. Jonah map | VISUAL UNIT

   https://visualunit.me/2011/01/17/jonah-map

   Jan 17, 2011 · A map showing the contrast between Jonah’s mission destination, i.e. Nineveh, and his planned flight to Tarshish. PDF version (1.5 MB)

6. Gath-hepher - Map of Ancient Israel (Old Testament Maps)

   https://www.bible-history.com/geography/ancient-israel/ot/gath_hepher.html

   Map of Old Testament Israel - Gath-hepher. Gath-hepher F-6 on the Map. Gath-hepher Kh. ez-Zurra' pp. 62, 69 X3 in Zebulun, Josh. 19. 13; home of Jonah, according to 2 Kgs. 14. 25. Joshua 19:13 - And from thence passeth on along on the east to Gittahhepher, to Ittahkazin, and goeth out to Remmonmethoar to Neah; 2 Kings 14:25 - He restored the coast of Israel from the entering of Hamath unto the ...

7. Joppa - Map of Ancient Israel (Old Testament Maps)

   https://www.bible-history.com/geography/ancient-israel/ot/joppa.html

   Map of Old Testament Israel - Joppa. Joppa B-8 on the Map. Joppa Jaffa, Yafa [Yafo]. Josh. 19. 46; seaport, 2 Chr. 2. 16; Ezra 3. 7; Jon. 1. 3; Acts 9. 36ff.; 10. 5ff. Joshua 19:46 - And Mejarkon, and Rakkon, with the border before Japho. 2 Chronicles 2:16 - And we will cut wood out of Lebanon, as much as thou shalt need: and we will bring it to thee in floats by sea to Joppa; and thou shalt ...

8. Nineveh - Wikipedia

   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineveh

   Nineveh was an important junction for commercial routes crossing the Tigris on the great highway between the Mediterranean Sea and the Indian Ocean, thus uniting the East and the West, it received wealth from many sources, so that it became one of the greatest of all the region's ancient cities, and the capital of the Neo-Assyrian Empire.

9. Bible Map: Nineveh

   https://bibleatlas.org/nineveh.htm

   Genesis 10:11 Out of that land he went forth into Assyria, and built Nineveh, Rehoboth Ir, Calah,. Genesis 10:12 and Resen between Nineveh and Calah (the same is the great city).. 2 Kings 19:36 So Sennacherib king of Assyria departed, and went and returned, and lived at Nineveh.. Isaiah 37:37 So Sennacherib king of Assyria departed, went away, returned to Nineveh, and stayed there.

10. Jonah: On the Way to Joppa - Amazing Bible Timeline with ...

    https://amazingbibletimeline.com/blog/jonah-on-the-way-to-joppa

    Jun 30, 2016 · Here is an interesting fact God revealed to me leading through research. Tarshish was in Spain on the far western end of the Mediterranean. Joppa was about 150-200 miles from Jerusalem, which is about another 500 miles to Nineveh. The fin whale can travel at 23mph. Multiply that 23mph by 72 hours (3 days and 3 nights) and you get 1656 miles.

Edited August 9, 2020 by BeauJangles

[Jayne]

2 hours ago, CaptWalker said:

Well i was recently looking at a map of ancient middle east trying find the exact location of Nineveh and discovered it was actually over 500 miles from the nearest port, either on the Black Sea or Mediterranean. So my question is how did Jonah get there so quickly, apparently arriving on the first day after the whale "dropped him off"??? The only thing i can think of is maybe there was a river such as the Tigris/Euphrates that was accessible to the sea in those days, but has long since been dried up? Other than that i can only guess it was one of those "catching away" events such as what happened to Philip in Acts 8:39-40?  (BTW-Mosul,Iraq is where the ruins of Nineveh are today, and there is actually a mosque there named after the Prophet Jonah).

Captain Walker, I don't see where it says how long it took Jonah to get to Ninevah.

The end of chapter 2 says "the whale vomited him out".

The beginning of chapter 3 says "the word of the Lord came to Jonah a second time and said go to the great city of Nineveh".

Then it says "Jonah obeyed and went to Nineveh".

I don't see a timeline of how long all this took.  It does say that when Jonah got there, it took three days to walk around the whole city.  It also says Jonah walked around one days journey in the city before the king repented.

 

Edited August 9, 2020 by Jayne

[Knotical]

Jonah 3:1-4

Now the word of the Lord came to Jonah the second time, saying, "Arise, go to Nineveh the great city and proclaim to it the proclamation which am going to tell you."  So Jonah arose and went to Nineveh according to the word of the Lord.  Now Nineveh was an exceedingly great city, a three day's walk.  Then Jonah began to go through the city one day's walk; and he cried out and said, "Yet forty days and Nineveh will be overthrown."

The first time frame referenced is how long it would take for Jonah to get to Nineveh from where he was vomited out of the fish/whale.  The second time frame was how long it took him to walk through the city.

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On 8/10/2020 at 1:33 AM, CaptWalker said:

Well i was recently looking at a map of ancient middle east trying find the exact location of Nineveh and discovered it was actually over 500 miles from the nearest port, either on the Black Sea or Mediterranean. So my question is how did Jonah get there so quickly, apparently arriving on the first day after the whale "dropped him off"??? The only thing i can think of is maybe there was a river such as the Tigris/Euphrates that was accessible to the sea in those days, but has long since been dried up? Other than that i can only guess it was one of those "catching away" events such as what happened to Philip in Acts 8:39-40?  (BTW-Mosul,Iraq is where the ruins of Nineveh are today, and there is actually a mosque there named after the Prophet Jonah).

There is no indication as to either the time between Jonah being released from the whale and God speaking to him.. Nor is there any indication as to the amount of time Jonah took to reach Nineveh in the scriptures.. The tree days mentioned where the time it would take Jonah to go through the city of Nineveh proclaiming the warning of God..

 

[CaptWalker]

On 8/9/2020 at 3:02 PM, Knotical said:

Jonah 3:1-4

Now the word of the Lord came to Jonah the second time, saying, "Arise, go to Nineveh the great city and proclaim to it the proclamation which am going to tell you."  So Jonah arose and went to Nineveh according to the word of the Lord.  Now Nineveh was an exceedingly great city, a three day's walk.  Then Jonah began to go through the city one day's walk; and he cried out and said, "Yet forty days and Nineveh will be overthrown."

The first time frame referenced is how long it would take for Jonah to get to Nineveh from where he was vomited out of the fish/whale.  The second time frame was how long it took him to walk through the city.

I agree with that, since a 3 days walk is about 60 miles or more depending on how many hours a day you are walking. If he went non-stop then he could have covered over 150 miles, but it's probably not very realistic. And since there are no modern waterways that connect any rivers from the sea to Nineveh, we just have to assume there was one back in those days, and i'm guessing it would have been the Tigris/Euphrates, since it was wide enough at least for a whale to swim a good ways up it. Either way maybe it doesn't seem like a big deal if you believe the story 100%, but always good to have some facts straight if you are ever debating this with an unbeliever.

[Leonardo Von]

On 8/9/2020 at 12:33 PM, CaptWalker said:

Well i was recently looking at a map of ancient middle east trying find the exact location of Nineveh and discovered it was actually over 500 miles from the nearest port, either on the Black Sea or Mediterranean. So my question is how did Jonah get there so quickly, apparently arriving on the first day after the whale "dropped him off"??? The only thing i can think of is maybe there was a river such as the Tigris/Euphrates that was accessible to the sea in those days, but has long since been dried up? Other than that i can only guess it was one of those "catching away" events such as what happened to Philip in Acts 8:39-40?  (BTW-Mosul,Iraq is where the ruins of Nineveh are today, and there is actually a mosque there named after the Prophet Jonah).

The Holy Scripture at no moment says how much time Jonah spent to arrive in Nineveh.

[CaptWalker]

You're right and i guess it really makes no difference as far as whether or not a true believer/Christian believes this event really happened just as "Holy Scripture" says it did...but it just makes it that much harder to convince the naysayers, who take this as just some made up "fish tale".