Dinis Posted September 4, 2020 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 11 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 18 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/10/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted September 4, 2020 Some people say that it doesn’t make sense for somebody who has been a Christian all their life to be in the same state as somebody who did as they pleased all their life and waited until the last second to get their accounts square with God. Can you repent at the moment of death and still have the same salvation as someone who's been a Christian for many years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted September 4, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 598 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,128 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,855 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted September 4, 2020 you might have to define "same salvation" but saved in the general sense, yes they can.... but I think if one did that on purpose Jesus would know if the person really meant it or not.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted September 4, 2020 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.31 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Share Posted September 4, 2020 3 hours ago, Dinis said: Some people say that it doesn’t make sense for somebody who has been a Christian all their life to be in the same state as somebody who did as they pleased all their life and waited until the last second to get their accounts square with God. Can you repent at the moment of death and still have the same salvation as someone who's been a Christian for many years? I'm reminded of the parable where a fellow goes out at different times of the day and hires people, yet at the end of the day pays all the same wage. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnOrangeCat Posted September 5, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 57 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,405 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 1,824 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/24/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted September 5, 2020 16 hours ago, Dinis said: Some people say that it doesn’t make sense for somebody who has been a Christian all their life to be in the same state as somebody who did as they pleased all their life and waited until the last second to get their accounts square with God. Can you repent at the moment of death and still have the same salvation as someone who's been a Christian for many years? Hypothetically it's possible, but a big flaw with that is that we can't predict our deaths. A car crash or another accident could end our lives in a moment. Dementia could creep in and that plan could fall by the wayside. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Adams Posted September 5, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 25 Topic Count: 61 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 9,605 Content Per Day: 3.97 Reputation: 7,795 Days Won: 21 Joined: 09/11/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted September 5, 2020 To answer the OP. YES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted September 5, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 100 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,189 Content Per Day: 7.98 Reputation: 21,467 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted September 5, 2020 16 hours ago, other one said: you might have to define "same salvation" but saved in the general sense, yes they can.... but I think if one did that on purpose Jesus would know if the person really meant it or not.... I agree here with OO cause God says this: Gal 6:7-8 7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. 8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting. KJV 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted September 6, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 905 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,646 Content Per Day: 2.02 Reputation: 5,832 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted September 6, 2020 On 9/4/2020 at 11:45 AM, Dinis said: Some people say that it doesn’t make sense for somebody who has been a Christian all their life to be in the same state as somebody who did as they pleased all their life and waited until the last second to get their accounts square with God. Can you repent at the moment of death and still have the same salvation as someone who's been a Christian for many years? Isn't that the same argument the brother of the prodigal son made? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted September 6, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 905 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,646 Content Per Day: 2.02 Reputation: 5,832 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted September 6, 2020 I have learned not to even try to put God in a box anymore. All salvation is one-to-one. God alone determines who made it or not. The genuine Jesus and faith in him is the only way (the Bible makes that abundantly clear). But we do not know what happens in someone's heart in death, immediately preceding death, or that for some reason they are hiding their faith... which is why I disregard polls of every kind... or if they came to faith in the genuine Jesus as a child and forgot about it... God remembers. God takes our faith in his Son quite personally (John 16:27) conversely, he takes a dim view of unbelief. We and our standards and opinions really do not matter in these cases. I think we will all be surprised when we get to heaven about who else made it and who didn't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted September 6, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.80 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted September 6, 2020 On 9/4/2020 at 9:45 AM, Dinis said: Some people say that it doesn’t make sense for somebody who has been a Christian all their life to be in the same state as somebody who did as they pleased all their life and waited until the last second to get their accounts square with God. Can you repent at the moment of death and still have the same salvation as someone who's been a Christian for many years? Judgment is in the hands of God. There are rewards in heaven some will get them and some will not. But you will still be in heaven. That is a reward. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted November 15, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 905 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,646 Content Per Day: 2.02 Reputation: 5,832 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted November 15, 2020 On 9/4/2020 at 11:45 AM, Dinis said: Some people say that it doesn’t make sense for somebody who has been a Christian all their life to be in the same state as somebody who did as they pleased all their life and waited until the last second to get their accounts square with God. Can you repent at the moment of death and still have the same salvation as someone who's been a Christian for many years? Matthew 20:1–16 (AV) 1 For the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is an householder, which went out early in the morning to hire labourers into his vineyard. 2 And when he had agreed with the labourers for a penny a day, he sent them into his vineyard. 3 And he went out about the third hour, and saw others standing idle in the marketplace, 4 And said unto them; Go ye also into the vineyard, and whatsoever is right I will give you. And they went their way. 5 Again he went out about the sixth and ninth hour, and did likewise. 6 And about the eleventh hour he went out, and found others standing idle, and saith unto them, Why stand ye here all the day idle? 7 They say unto him, Because no man hath hired us. He saith unto them, Go ye also into the vineyard; and whatsoever is right, that shall ye receive. 8 So when even was come, the lord of the vineyard saith unto his steward, Call the labourers, and give them their hire, beginning from the last unto the first. 9 And when they came that were hired about the eleventh hour, they received every man a penny. 10 But when the first came, they supposed that they should have received more; and they likewise received every man a penny. 11 And when they had received it, they murmured against the goodman of the house, 12 Saying, These last have wrought but one hour, and thou hast made them equal unto us, which have borne the burden and heat of the day. 13 But he answered one of them, and said, Friend, I do thee no wrong: didst not thou agree with me for a penny? 14 Take that thine is, and go thy way: I will give unto this last, even as unto thee. 15 Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? Is thine eye evil, because I am good? 16 So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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