Is abortion a free-trip to heaven?

[Duck]

^{Genesis 4:}

⁸ Now Cain talked with Abel his brother; and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother and killed him.

⁹ Then the Lord said to Cain, “Where is Abel your brother?” He said, “I do not know. Am I my brother’s keeper?”

¹⁰ And He said, “What have you done? The voice of your brother’s blood cries out to Me from the ground.

 ¹¹ So now you arecursed from the earth, which has opened its mouth to receive your brother’s blood from your hand. 

¹² When you till the ground, it shall no longer yield its strength to you. A fugitive and a vagabond you shall be on the earth.”

¹³ And Cain said to the Lord, “My punishment is greater than I can bear!

[CaptWalker]

Yes Cain killed Abel with his OWN HANDS, and would have disposed of his body and been done with it if God had not intervened. And even then, Cain was only to be cursed for the rest of his life, but it doesn't indicate that he would be refused salvation if he ultimately repented. BUT, i do believe he did end up going to that same side in "Hades" where the rich man ended up in Luke-16, but now we are getting into a completely different discussion about second chances for those born before Christ/salvation. But again, i would make the point of "murder" as being an act that one commits all on their own, in an entirely physical way they are directly involved in.

But now i know one would say that a woman killed her child by having it aborted, and is no different than doing it with her own hands, but the fact is that she didn't. And my argument is that if abortion was actually illegal and their was no way or means of a woman having it done, then i would think it most likely that she would simply have it and then put it up for adoption? But then i know there are many cases where dead babies have been found in trashcans in bathrooms,etc., and how God chooses to judge that is His decision alone. And i can even see how many Christians would judge such Mothers to Hell without any reservation. But again, scripture only mentions ONE unforgivable sin, and to put an abortion on the same level as that is quite a step to take, and actually makes me feel like there might be something much more personal going on, such as feelings one may have against women in particular...but am only guessing, and actually hoping i am wrong??

Edited December 31, 2020 by CaptWalker

[Duck]

8 hours ago, CaptWalker said:

Yes Cain killed Abel with his OWN HANDS, and would have disposed of his body and been done with it if God had not intervened. And even then, Cain was only to be cursed for the rest of his life, but it doesn't indicate that he would be refused salvation if he ultimately repented. BUT, i do believe he did end up going to that same side in "Hades" where the rich man ended up in Luke-16, but now we are getting into a completely different discussion about second chances for those born before Christ/salvation. But again, i would make the point of "murder" as being an act that one commits all on their own, in an entirely physical way they are directly involved in.

But now i know one would say that a woman killed her child by having it aborted, and is no different than doing it with her own hands, but the fact is that she didn't. And my argument is that if abortion was actually illegal and their was no way or means of a woman having it done, then i would think it most likely that she would simply have it and then put it up for adoption? But then i know there are many cases where dead babies have been found in trashcans in bathrooms,etc., and how God chooses to judge that is His decision alone. And i can even see how many Christians would judge such Mothers to Hell without any reservation. But again, scripture only mentions ONE unforgivable sin, and to put an abortion on the same level as that is quite a step to take, and actually makes me feel like there might be something much more personal going on, such as feelings one may have against women in particular...but am only guessing, and actually hoping i am wrong??

I am a woman, duh?

should I change my name to mallard??

aye aye cap’n

Edited December 31, 2020 by Duck

[CaptWalker]

2 hours ago, Duck said:

I am a woman, duh?

should I change my name to mallard??

aye aye cap’n

No, i think Duck is just fine, and i guess i just never got that memo about that online name only being used by women?? But either way i was really referring to anyone in general who may have something against women which is why i didn't quote you directly, duh? Just kidding...

Take it easy-

Edited December 31, 2020 by CaptWalker

[Duck]

2 hours ago, CaptWalker said:

No, i think Duck is just fine, and i guess i just never got that memo about that online name only being used by women?? But either way i was really referring to anyone in general who may have something against women which is why i didn't quote you directly, duh? Just kidding...

Take it easy-

Ironically, you touched a nerve...I do have an issue with women. They’re so high maintenance lol ? 

[Duck]

11 hours ago, Josheb said:

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Remember: The newer model is an upgrade .

[Duck]

19 hours ago, CaptWalker said:

No, i think Duck is just fine, and i guess i just never got that memo about that online name only being used by women?? But either way i was really referring to anyone in general who may have something against women which is why i didn't quote you directly, duh? Just kidding...

Take it easy-

Others have mistaken me For male on here, so thought you had too. My mistake

[Alive]

5 minutes ago, Duck said:

Others have mistaken me For male on here, so thought you had too. My mistake

Why not just add your gender to the profile?

[CaptWalker]

On 9/20/2020 at 1:24 PM, Jedi4Yahweh said:

This almost sounds like an encouragement to abort you children so that they can enter Heaven?   Abortion is evil...its child sacrifice and an abomination according to scriptures.  God will be the judge who enters into his Kingdom.

I agree, and whatever God's final decision is will be 110% completely justified and righteous, period. But my original question was basically in asking how He judges, whether it's based on what the unborn child WOULD have done later in life? And one point i failed to mention was that in Psalms-51:5..."Behold i was brought forth in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me."

So then my confusion is about where the teaching comes from that we are all born in innocence because we don't yet have freewill to make any kind of rational decisions, such as knowing right from wrong?? But according to this verse we actually are already in a state of "sin" as soon as we are born and therefore would technically be subject to any sins that we may have committed later in life. And what if someone like Charles Manson would have been aborted, would they be in heaven right now?? But really i guess it would only matter to the mother herself, as far as wanting to see that child again, and if they would have turned out to be a serial killer then i would think she would not really be too interested in seeing them again?? So maybe it's really all a moot point, and how God judges the "innocent" is really His business and like i said, it will be justified regardless. 

[Duck]

4 hours ago, Alive said:

Why not just add your gender to the profile?

more fun this way. Men debate when they think your male.

once they know you’re female, they disappear