This Speech Is Hard

[vinho1000]

This Speech Is Hard (John 6:60)
Some reading this verse think that the preaching performed by Jesus was harsh and these men sinned by not accepting Jesus 'harsh speech, but in truth such an interpretation is mistaken and the real sense is that those disciples sinned by not accepting Jesus' speech and they also sinned by calling Christ's preaching hard.
Jesus had given a sermon where he said that whoever eats his flesh and drinks his blood has eternal life, many men who followed Jesus were scandalized when they heard such words, because they made a literal interpretation of the words and kept asking how this will give us your meat to eat? Jesus had also said that he was the bread that came down from heaven to give life to the world, many were also scandalized by these words, because they knew the place where Jesus lived and found it strange that he said he had come from heaven. In fact, they were unaware that Jesus was the God who came from heaven and became incarnate in Mary's womb, being conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit.
Finally, when Jesus preached a sermon with such words, those men said: This speech is hard, who can hear it? They considered these words to be a speech by a crazy and unintelligent person and stopped following Jesus.
But let's interpret the words spoken by Jesus that those disciples were scandalized. When Jesus said about eating his flesh and drinking his blood, He was referring to the fact that one believes in his atoning death on the cross, eating and drinking means being a participant, enjoying all the benefits of this great salvation. It means having Christ within you and is intimately connected to the cross of Christ. It does not mean literally eating the flesh of Jesus and drinking his blood as if it were an act of cannibalism.
For those who ignorantly think that Jesus 'speech was harsh and must be believed, they make a serious error of biblical interpretation, because the concept of that Jesus' speech being called harsh came from unbelieving and impious men. Say it is a hard speech Hearing words of hope and salvation? It is a hard speech To hear that whoever eats the flesh of Jesus and drinks his blood has eternal life? In fact, Jesus' speech is restorative, blessing and pleasurable to hear, they are not harsh words, but wise and sweeter than honey.
Author: Elvis Welber

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This Speech Is Hard (John 6:60)
Some reading this verse think that the preaching performed by Jesus was harsh and these men sinned by not accepting Jesus 'harsh speech, but in truth such an interpretation is mistaken and the real sense is that those disciples sinned by not accepting Jesus' speech and they also sinned by calling Christ's preaching hard.
Jesus had given a sermon where he said that whoever eats his flesh and drinks his blood has eternal life, many men who followed Jesus were scandalized when they heard such words, because they made a literal interpretation of the words and kept asking how this will give us your meat to eat? Jesus had also said that he was the bread that came down from heaven to give life to the world, many were also scandalized by these words, because they knew the place where Jesus lived and found it strange that he said he had come from heaven. In fact, they were unaware that Jesus was the God who came from heaven and became incarnate in Mary's womb, being conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit.
Finally, when Jesus preached a sermon with such words, those men said: This speech is hard, who can hear it? They considered these words to be a speech by a crazy and unintelligent person and stopped following Jesus.
But let's interpret the words spoken by Jesus that those disciples were scandalized. When Jesus said about eating his flesh and drinking his blood, He was referring to the fact that one believes in his atoning death on the cross, eating and drinking means being a participant, enjoying all the benefits of this great salvation. It means having Christ within you and is intimately connected to the cross of Christ. It does not mean literally eating the flesh of Jesus and drinking his blood as if it were an act of cannibalism.
For those who ignorantly think that Jesus 'speech was harsh and must be believed, they make a serious error of biblical interpretation, because the concept of that Jesus' speech being called harsh came from unbelieving and impious men. Say it is a hard speech Hearing words of hope and salvation? It is a hard speech To hear that whoever eats the flesh of Jesus and drinks his blood has eternal life? In fact, Jesus' speech is restorative, blessing and pleasurable to hear, they are not harsh words, but wise and sweeter than honey.
Author: Elvis Welber

 

[Who me]

For the non Christian this is a hard saying, as is seen in the reaction of the Jews. Those who had more spiritual awareness or who just trusted Jesus more knew there had to be more than cannibalism, as Peter showed when he said ' You have the Words of eternal life.'

 

Christianity is not an easy option.

[vinho1000]

Just now, Who me said:

For the non Christian this is a hard saying, as is seen in the reaction of the Jews. Those who had more spiritual awareness or who just trusted Jesus more knew there had to be more than cannibalism, as Peter showed when he said ' You have the Words of eternal life.'

 

Christianity is not an easy option.

The Non Christians are liars and uniteligent, they says many kinds of blasphemies

[Who me]

2 minutes ago, vinho1000 said:

The Non Christians are liars and uniteligent, they says many kinds of blasphemies

Sorry but that statement is not correct.

Christians depend on the intellect and the integrity of a great many professional people as well as those who do ordinary Jobs.

 

What non Christians are is they are sinners in need of a saviour. The only difference between them and us is that we know the Saviour.

[vinho1000]

20 minutes ago, Who me said:

Sorry but that statement is not correct.

Christians depend on the intellect and the integrity of a great many professional people as well as those who do ordinary Jobs.

 

What non Christians are is they are sinners in need of a saviour. The only difference between them and us is that we know the Saviour.

The bible shows clearly every person that dont believe is a fool.  My statament is correct in a spiritual sense. 

[vinho1000]

Just now, vinho1000 said:

The bible shows clearly every person that dont believe is a fool.  My statament is correct in a spiritual sense. 

When i Said that nonchristian is uninteligent is in spiritual sense.  I am not refering to human wisdom in jobs.  Profession. 

[TheBlade]

I guess its what "word" one wants to run with "Hard, violent, harsh, stern. From the base of skelos; dry, i.e. Hard or tough."

In 28 versions most use "hard, hard to understand" others use "difficult". But.. you can use harsh.  The first meaning of (skleros) used is "hard" used 6 times in the NT. Also harsh, stern, severe and violent. Sometimes the word is used literally and often figuratively.  So this verse was hard and offensive to many. So easy now that we have the bible but back then..who can here it..

[vinho1000]

11 hours ago, TheBlade said:

I guess its what "word" one wants to run with "Hard, violent, harsh, stern. From the base of skelos; dry, i.e. Hard or tough."

In 28 versions most use "hard, hard to understand" others use "difficult". But.. you can use harsh.  The first meaning of (skleros) used is "hard" used 6 times in the NT. Also harsh, stern, severe and violent. Sometimes the word is used literally and often figuratively.  So this verse was hard and offensive to many. So easy now that we have the bible but back then..who can here it..

I am a Learning in english. 

[Who me]

23 hours ago, vinho1000 said:

The bible shows clearly every person that dont believe is a fool.  My statament is correct in a spiritual sense. 

Yes the Bible does say that, but telling someone they are stupid etc is not how one gets them to think about what one is saying to them.