how can I support Israel?

[JohnR7]

1 hour ago, Mary8 said:

He was amazed by the smallness of the city of Jerusalem:

The New Jerusalem will be 1500 by 1500 by 1500 miles. The size of the entire Arab Continental plate.

Joshua 1:3,4 "I have given you every place where the sole of your foot will tread, just as I promised to Moses. Your territory shall extend from the wilderness and Lebanon to the great River Euphrates—all the land of the Hittites—and west as far as the Great Sea".

Revelation 21:16 "The city is laid out as a square, and its length is as great as the width; and he measured the city with the rod, fifteen hundred miles; its length and width and height are equal".

Edited October 9, 2020 by JohnR7

[Guest]

Simple: to support God's people Israel, vote Republican in the November election. 

[JohnD]

On 10/8/2020 at 11:41 AM, integrity said:

I know and believe the covenant God made with Abraham. About any nation that blesses Israel being blessed, and any that curse her being destroyed...but modern day Israel seems awful as a nation. Benjamin Netanyahu does not seem to be a godly man, but I've read to potentially be corrupt. And also the most heart breaking thing to me  how they treat the  Palestinians. How can we support them if they are so unkind? I would never want Israel to be left to be destroyed by the middle eastern countries, and I'm sure the Jewish nation themselves are not the evil ones. But this thing with the poor Palestinian people bothers me immensely. I cant make it make sense in my heart or mind. Do they live by a different set of rules? Are they allowed to be corrupt and harm other people just because they are Gods chosen people?what about the words and teachings of Jesus? How can God be okay with monsters like that...trying to destroy a different people(palestinians) which seem to be waaaaay inferior to them in every way. I'm just looking for some enlightenment. I am very confused at to how God wants them to be supported if they reject His Son and murder other ethnicities. I can't say God is just if He gives them extra leniency just because they are Israelites.

Close family members had the same difficulty with Jewish people (getting past what they say and do that are in many ways anti-Christian) not only in Israel but in Hollywood etc.

I explained to them:

1. God loves the Jewish people (which ought to be enough)

2. The Jewish people down through history have suffered terribly for bringing in the Word of God into the world

in two forms:

A) the scriptures

B) the Messiah the living Word.

3. The Abrahamic covenant was unconditional (which is why Abraham was incapacitated during the cutting of the covenant).

No conditions. Belief / unbelief / whatever. God shall bless those who bless them and curse those who curse them.

4. Palestinians are (wittingly or unwittingly) agents of the evil one... 

A) The majority of Palestinians are heirs of exiled Jordanians that the Jewish people welcomed into the Holy Land as they

were being kicked out of Jordan. The Jews were just coming into the land in 1948 at the time.

B) The Muslims are behind the unrest because their prophet predicted Israel would never again be a standing nation. And they 

loathe the Jews all the more because  the existence of Israel proves Mohamed a false prophet. So they either face this fact or try

with all their might to undo what the UN did in 1948.

The Jews are only doing what it takes to survive in these conditions. And the antisemitic press skews all reports to make Israel 

out to be a sadistic antagonist towards the "peaceful" Palestinians. ← tongue firmly planted in cheek

Palestinians blow up buses with little children in them or launch rockets at homes with families in them.

What would YOU do differently under those extreme circumstances???

[Who me]

16 hours ago, Roar said:

How can you support Israel. Pray for the Return of Yeshua Hamashiach (Jesus Christ), Romans 11:26 - New King James Version - 26 and so all Israel will be saved, as it is written:

When Jesus returns it will be too late.

All Israel will be saved, all Israel is all those who are Christian.

 

So pray for conversions.

[integrity]

I think that I do not know and understand enough scriptures to understand this issue. Whoever said this is true, that there are no conditions on that abrahamic covenant, therefore I must do as God has commanded. In cannot support anyone inflicting pain on anyone as there are always innocents and children involved be it Israeli innocents or Palestinian. Jesus died for all of us, He loves ALL the children of this world. There are Zionist Jews behind the scenes bent on destruction, but I know those are not the Israeli people. I pray and hope for their conversion and for Palestinians as well. We are all children of Him, and those that serve another will never know the joy and pure love of God and Jesus. I want all people to have that. Muslims Hindus Buddhists everyone. They were born into those cultures, I hope we Christiand never lose sight of the fact that He called us first, He loved us first, we would never come to Him of our own accord. And we owe that same lovingkindess and compassion to all the nations of this world  even the Arab ones that hate Israel.

[Who me]

The tenant oIsl that will be saved will be hose who believe when Jesus returns

 

There is no chance afterwards.

Why will people be calling on the rocks to fall on them and hide them from Jesus?

Because they are not saved and are terrified at the sight of the returning glorified Jesus.

Equally those Jews who have not accepted Jesus as there Lord and Saviour will be couring under rocks to escape his wrath.

 

Which is why I say pray for conversions, today is the day of salvation.

[AnOrangeCat]

On 10/9/2020 at 11:32 AM, integrity said:

I am loving this discussion...because I am having trouble myself understanding what's going on in the middle east. Everything is politics and twisted...the truth is so hard to see. Basically it seems like the Arab governments hate Israel, as always and persecute them, but innocent Palestinians are the ones hurt when Israel rightfully retaliates. Just the knowledge of innocent people especially children being hurt in any nation is so hard to reconcile for me. But alas, this is life here on earth. Where wars are the rich mans game and the poor innocents of all nations pay for it.

This is really the heart of it. There's a lot of politics, propaganda, and agendas in play and the news media will often put a particular spin on things. As I see it, if you disapprove of what the government is doing, that's fine. You don't have to support something that seems unjust or unscriptural. But what you can do is pray for Israel and the innocents, and if you feel led to, support legit charitable institutions that help the normal, every day people of Israel.