My favorit Prophecy!!!

[Guest shiloh357]

[nebula]

Every one who comes to Christ is part of the Church. To say there is something else, another group, another way, is anti-christ.

Yes! Anyone who comes to Christ is part of the Church - but not Israel!

There isn't gonna be a jew section and "body of Christ" section in heaven or earth.

[Guest shiloh357]

No its not about interpretation. It is about believing what the Bible says. When God is talking about Israel, he is not talking about Gentiles. It may offend Christian pride to admit that, but it is the truth. The Church and Israel are two different entities in Scripture.

Furthermore I bet I can find all kinds of things God says about Israel that folks like you would not want to take unto yourselves. It seems in the minds of some, that whenever God is critical of Israel, it pertains to the Jews, but when God is favorable to Israel, suddenly Christians become "Israel."

It has nothing to do with anything that resembles sound, biblical interpretation, but a very selective, and inconsistent approach to Scripture that seeks to interpret "Israel" as the Church, but only when it is favorable to do so.

You're the scholar and I'm just a seeker so stick to you're guns. There isn't gonna be a jew section and "body of Christ" section in heaven or earth. God's people are just that. The promise of a redeemer was made before any jew or gentile existed so I'm gonna continue to claim promises made to Israel because that's what the word tells me to do. And as soon as you/someone gets the 144,000 thread going, I'll be more than happy to address why I believe it's not literal Israel.

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I never said that there is going to be a section of Jews and a section of Christians on the earth. Perhaps you should pay attention. My point is that God has prophetic end time plan for Israel, and that He is going to fulfill His promises to them.

I bet I can find some promises made to Israel that you don't claim. You claim the ones you want, as is the standard M.O. for those who believe the replacement theology heresy. God has not transferred His promises to Israel over to you. You are just living in a fantasy with that one. You need to read your Bible

[nebula]

Maybe you ought to post those verses, Shiloh.

[dgolvach]

I wonder if there will be pro-OSAS and anti- OSAS sections in heaven?

Dan

[Trinity]

Has The Church replaced Israel?

Those who believe "The Church" replaced Israel believe in what is called "The Replacement theory." They believe since the Jews rejected their Messiah that they are done, and passed now unto the Christian-Gentiles who are now the "True Jews."

Those who believe in "The Replacement theory" fail to realize that it contradicts the Bible, which in Isaiah 40:8 it says, "The grass withers and the flowers fall, but the word of our God stands forever."

God made Everlasting Promises to the Jews:

1.) I will establish my covenant as an everlasting covenant between me and you and your descendants. - Genesis 17:7

2.) I will establish my covenant with him as an everlasting covenant for his descendants after him. - Genesis 17:19

3.) He confirmed it to Jacob as a decree, to Israel as an everlasting covenant. - 1 Chronicles 16:17

If God where to ever Leave Israel he would be a liar. And what would stop him from Leaving us as Christians and go to another people? Because for roughly 1300 years the Church was in spiritual Darkness.

For those who wish to see the truth Read Ezekiel 36

Highlights of Genesis 12:1-3:

I will make you a great nation.

I will bless you.

I will make your name great.

I will make you a blessing.

I will bless those who bless you.

I will curse those who curse you.

In you all the families of the world will be blessed!

In Genesis 12:7 which confirms that the Lord has not only made this covenant with Abraham but it is a promise to all of Abraham's descendents!

Something to Remember!

Romans 11:1-2

The Remnant of Israel

I ask then: Did God reject his people? By no means! I am an Israelite myself, a descendant of Abraham, from the tribe of Benjamin. God did not reject his people, whom he foreknew. Don't you know what the Scripture says in the passage about Elijah

[nebula]

You are perverting the whole New Testament to allow a convergence of Judaism into Christianity.

I am not talking about "a convergence of Judaism into Christianity."

Look, I don't know what kind of mix-up your father got in, but what Shiloh and Trinity and I are saying is nothing like that.

Why can you not read what we are saying?

The natural branches grafted back into the olive tree are going to be different from the wild branches tha thave been grafted in. Yes, we belong to the same tree, but wild branches and natural branches are still different.

(And that's Romans 11, not Hebrews. )

[Guest shiloh357]

Every one who comes to Christ is part of the Church. To say there is something else, another group, another way, is anti-christ.

Yes! Anyone who comes to Christ is part of the Church - but not Israel!

There isn't gonna be a jew section and "body of Christ" section in heaven or earth.

[Guest shiloh357]

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No more SDA doctrine threads.

I agree.

[seraph]

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I am sorry but this board will not allow me to align right so for those of you who can read this it is writen in word with a right side alignment.

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א לָכֵן אֲנִי נֶגֶד פְּנֵי אֱהִים וְנֶגֶד פְּנֵי יֵשׁוּעַ הַמָּשִׁיחַ אֲדוֹנֵינוּ אֲשֶׁר יִשְׁפֹּט אֶת־הַחַיִּים וְאֶת־הַמֵּתִים כַּאֲשֶׁר יִגָּלֶה בְמַלְכוּתוֹ הִנְנִי מְצַוְּ הַיּוֹם לֵאמֹר׃

ב קְרָא אֶת־דְּבַר בְּשׁרָתוֹ וְא תֶחְדַּל מִקְּרֹא גַּם־בְּעִתּוֹ וְגַם בְּא עִתּוֹ וּבְכָל־אֹרֶ רוּחֲ הוֹכֵחַ תּוֹכִיחַ וְתִגְעַר וְתַזְהֵר לְפִי כָל־דִּבְרֵי הַתּוֹרָה׃

ג כִּי־יָמִים יָבוֹאוּ אֲשֶׁר א־יָכִילוּ בְנֵי־אָדָם תּוֹרַת חַיִּים כִּי אָזְנֵיהֶם הֻכּוּ בֶחָרֶס וַהֲמוֹן מוֹרִים יִצְבְּרוּ לָהֶם בְּאַוָּתָם לְהִתְגָּרֶד־בָּם׃

ד מִן־הָאֱמֶת יָסִירוּ אָזְנָם לְהַטּוֹת אַחֲרֵי מִשְׁלִי שָׁוְא׃

ה אֲבָל אַתָּה עֲמֹד עַל־מִשְׁמַרְתֶּ הִתְעַנֶּה תַּחַת יְדֵי הָרָעָה עֲשֵׂה מְלֶאכֶת הַמְבַשֵּׂר וְכַלֵּה אֶת־עֲבֹדָתֶ׃

ו וַאֲנִי נְכוֹנָה נַפְשִׁי לְהִשְׁתַּפֵּ עֲלֵי־זָבַח וְעֵת חֲלִיפָתִי בָּאָה׃

ז מִלְחֶמֶת צֶדֶק נִלְחָמְתִּי אֶת־מְרוּצָתִי הִשְׁלַמְתִּי וְאֶת־הָאֱמוּנָה נָצָרְתִּי׃

ח וּלְמִן־הַיּוֹם הַזֶּה צָפוּן לִי כֶּתֶר הַצְּדָקָה אֲשֶׁר בַּיּוֹם הַהוּא יִתֶּן־לִי הָאָדוֹן שֹׁפֵט צֶדֶק וְא־לִי לְבַדִּי כִּי אִם־גַּם לְכָל־הַחֲפֵצִים בְּהִתְגַּלּוֹתוֹ׃

ט חוּשָׁה וּבֹאָה אֵלַי עַד־מְהֵרָה׃

י דִּימָס עֲזָבַנִי כִּי אָהַב אֶת־הָעוֹלָם הַזֶּה וַיֵּלֶ־לוֹ לְתַסְלוֹנִיקִי קְרִיסְקִיס לְגָלַטְיָא וְטִיטוֹס לְדַלְמָטְיָא׃

יא וְלוּקָס לְבַדּוֹ נִשְׁאָר עִמִּי קְחָה־נָּא אֶת־מַרְקוֹס וַהֲבִיאֵהוּ עִמְּ לַעְזָר־לִי בַּעֲבֹדָתִי׃

יב אֶת־טוּכִיקוֹס שָׁלַחְתִּי לְאֶפְסוֹס׃

יג הָבֵא־נָא אִתְּ אֶת־מְעִילִי אֲשֶׁר עָזַבְתִּי בִטְרוֹאַס תַּחַת יְדֵי קַרְפּוֹס וְגַם אֶת־הַסְּפָרִים אַ אֶת־הַקְּלָפִים בְּרֹאשָׁם׃

יד אֲלֶכְסַנְדְּרוֹס חָרַשׁ הַנְּחשֶׁת עָשָׂה לִי רָעוֹת רַבּוֹת יְשַׁלֶּם־לוֹ יְהוָֹה כְּמַעֲשֵׂהוּ׃

טו וְגַם־אַתָּה הִשְׁתַּמֵר מִפָּנָיו כִּי הוּא הִתְיַצֵּב בְּפָנַי לַמְרוֹת וּלְהָפֵר דְּבָרֵינוּ׃

טז כַּאֲשֶׁר בָּאתִי לְהִצְטַדֵּק בַּפַּעַם הָרִאשֹׁנָה א־עַמַד אִישׁ אִתִּי כִּי־כֻלָּם עֲזָבוּנִי אַל־יֵחָשֵׁב לָהֶם לְעָוֹן׃

יז אֲבָל הָאָדוֹן הָיָה בְעֶזְרִי וַיְחַזְּקֵנִי לְמַעַן תִּקָּרֵא הַבְּשׁרָה עַל־פִּי וְיִשְׁמְעוּ כָל־הַגּוֹיִם וְגַם־בְּעֶזְרָתוֹ מִפִּי אַרְיֵה נִצָּלְתִּי׃

יח כֵּן יַצִּילֵנִי הָאָדוֹן מִכָּל־רָע וְיוֹשִׁיעֵנִי לָבוֹא אֶל־מַלְכוּת שָׁמָיִם וְלוֹ אֶתֵּן כָּבוֹד לְעוֹלָם וָעֶד אָמֵן׃

יט שְׁאַל לִשְׁלוֹם פְּרִיסְקָה וַעֲקִילָס וּבֵית אֳנִיסִיפוֹרוֹס׃

כ אֲרַסְטוֹס נִשְׁאַר בְּקוֹרִנְתּוֹס וְאֶת־טְרוֹפִימוֹס הִנַּחְתִּי בְּמִילֵטוֹס כִּי חֹלֶה הוּא׃

כא מַהֵר וָבֹא אֵלַי לִפְנֵי יְמוֹת הַחֹרֶף אֶוְבוּלוֹס וּפוּדִיס וְלִינוֹס וּקְלוֹדְיָה וְכָל־אַחֵינוּ שֹׁאֲלִים לִשְׁלוֹמֶ׃

כב אֲדֹנֵינוּ יֵשׁוּעַ הַמָּשִׁיחַ עִם־רוּחֶוְחַסְדּוֹ עִמָּכֶם אָמֵן׃