How to Authentically Speak in Tongues

[LiveWire]

1 hour ago, NConly said:

I find 22 verses that speak of tongues. They all lead me to think when anyone speaks in Tongues it is the tongue of another human language and must be interpreted at that time. I find not one verse that indicated one can speak in a tongue that no human can interpret.

where do you find that other in Church, if Tongues is Spoken, it must also be interpreted?

[Your closest friendnt]

1 hour ago, NConly said:

I find 22 verses that speak of tongues. They all lead me to think when anyone speaks in Tongues it is the tongue of another human language and must be interpreted at that time. I find not one verse that indicated one can speak in a tongue that no human can interpret.

In 1 Corinthians 12:1-11 

The apostle.Paul in 1 Corinthians 12: 1-11 is speaking of the gifts.of the Holy Spirit and while one of them is "speaking in tongues" and another is the gift of interpretation of Tongues. 

***12 Now about the gifts of the Spirit, brothers and sisters, I do not want you to be uninformed. 2 You know that when you were pagans, somehow or other you were influenced and led astray to mute idols. 3 Therefore I want you to know that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says, “Jesus be cursed,” and no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit.

4 There are different kinds of gifts, but the same Spirit distributes them. 5 There are different kinds of service, but the same Lord. 6 There are different kinds of working, but in all of them and in everyone it is the same God at work.

7 Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good. 8 To one there is given through the Spirit a message of wisdom, to another a message of knowledge by means of the same Spirit, 9 to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by that one Spirit, 10 to another miraculous powers, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, 

to another speaking in different kinds of tongues,

and to still another the interpretation of tongues.

 11 All these are the work of one and the same Spirit, and he distributes them to each one, just as he determines.

[JimmyB]

1 hour ago, NConly said:

I find 22 verses that speak of tongues. They all lead me to think when anyone speaks in Tongues it is the tongue of another human language and must be interpreted at that time. I find not one verse that indicated one can speak in a tongue that no human can interpret.

1 Corinthians 14:14, "For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays but my mind is unproductive."  Even the person who prays cannot interpret what s/he says.  That is exactly what I experience when I pray in tongues.

[NConly]

1 hour ago, LiveWire said:

where do you find that other in Church, if Tongues is Spoken, it must also be interpreted?

1 Corin 14

27 If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret.

28 But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God.

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[NConly]

1 hour ago, LiveWire said:

where do you find that other in Church, if Tongues is Spoken, it must also be interpreted?

1 Corin 14

If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret.

28 But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God.

[ChristB4us]

3 hours ago, NConly said:

I find 22 verses that speak of tongues. They all lead me to think when anyone speaks in Tongues it is the tongue of another human language and must be interpreted at that time. 

Unless understood by a foreigner in his native tongue like in Acts 2.

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I find not one verse that indicated one can speak in a tongue that no human can interpret.

There isn't any but they do try to make a case for it in Acts 2 when someone accused the disciples of being drunk when in actuality, I am sure there will be some near His disciples that was not speaking in their native tongue but to those around them for why they would think they were drunk albeit, if they were standing near the disciples that were speaking in their native tongue elsewhere in that gathering, they would not assume that, but the scripture is clear they were all speaking in another language and not gibberish nonsense that nobody understands... otherwise Luke would have written it so rather than emphasizing how they were ALL speaking in different languages.

 

[LiveWire]

41 minutes ago, NConly said:

1 Corin 14

27 If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret.

28 But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God.

Verse 28 tells us this while "in the Church."

It says nothing about Private Prayer where Speaking in Tongues is done alone.

[NConly]

6 minutes ago, LiveWire said:

Verse 28 tells us this while "in the Church."

It says nothing about Private Prayer where Speaking in Tongues is done alone.

The last few words: v28:

 

8 minutes ago, LiveWire said:

and let him speak to himself, and to God.

 

[LiveWire]

2 minutes ago, NConly said:

The last few words: v28:

 

 

Amen!

 

...and let him speak to himself, and to God.

[ChristB4us]

2 hours ago, LiveWire said:

Verse 28 tells us this while "in the Church."

It says nothing about Private Prayer where Speaking in Tongues is done alone.

@NConly

1 Corin 14

27 If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret.

28 But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God.

I know that tongue speakers for private use have been trained to see tongues for private use in chapter 14 even though 1 Corinthians 12:4-21 speaks against any of those gifts being for private use.

However, you should consider from your point of view, if it was really for private use, how can they let him speak to himself and to God when they are not there when they use tongues for private use?  So this is about in the assembly.

So you have to discern why Paul said what he had said in verse 28 in respect to verse 27 and that is out of that practice in verse 27, that if any foreigner visitor stand up to speak and there is no interpretation coming, then what he is saying is not manifested by the Holy Spirit for why he is to be "keep silence" in the church as Paul explained, "he speaks to himself and to God" meaning he understands what he is saying as he is speaking in his native tongue out of turn as God understands too.

Or else how can you rectify Paul saying not to forbid speaking in tongues and yet he commands this if there is no interpretation?

And the other point here is.... nobody likes members whispering next to them in the church pews even with a sound system to aid the speaker from the pulpit, as it is distracting and so in now way should any tongue speaker take verse 28 to mean he is praying in tongues quietly or in a low volume when Paul said to keep silence means silence.

When tongue speakers sees this truth by the grace of God, then they may see that 1 Corinthians 14:2 is about how the speaker does not understand what he is saying but God does, not that he is speaking TO God because there are no mysteries to be speaking to God about that is mysterious to Him, but only to the tongue speaker & those around him in the assembly until it is interpreted.

This is why from verse 1 that prophesy is better than tongues and all the other gifts combined because it not only edifies others but the speakers understands the edification in his language as well.

That is why prophesy is better because tongues is not a stand alone gift for why Paul says for those speaking in tongues to pray that "He" may interpret thru another because that tongue is unfruitful to himself until he understands that tongue when interpreted.

Somehow or another, tongue speakers for private use seem to ignore the intention of Paul exhorting the gift of prophesy over all gifts starting from the first verse in 1 Corinthians 14th chapter as he began to show why by comparing tongues against prophesy for why prophesy is better than tongues, unless interpreted.

1 Corinthians 14:1Follow after charity, and desire spiritual gifts, but rather that ye may prophesy.

5 I would that ye all spake with tongues but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying.

At no time was Paul teaching tongues for private use when he was showing why prophesy was better than tongues and all other gifts for the assembly to seek after.

But somehow, tongue speakers walk away from reading 1 Corinthians 14th chapter as if exhorting them for the gift of tongues for private use to seek after instead.

Edited May 9, 2023 by ChristB4us