Completed Israelite Posted January 14, 2021 Group: Junior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 113 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 34 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/20/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted January 14, 2021 If a Muslim asked a Christain, I want to accept Jesus as Messiah,Lord and savior. But I don't want to stop being Muslim, I still believe Muhammad was a great prophet, and the Koran is the final word from God, can I still take part in the New covenant? What would you reply? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The_Patriot21 Posted January 14, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 28 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 15,710 Content Per Day: 2.46 Reputation: 8,526 Days Won: 39 Joined: 10/25/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/27/1985 Popular Post Share Posted January 14, 2021 I wouldnt argue...id just bring them into scripture. Ask them to study the Bible with you, focus on who Jesus is, then go through the history of the early church. If he or she is talking about Jesus which means they curious...but if you start out with "you cant do that" you will put them on the defensive. Its better to let scripture defend itself, which it will. 2 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tristen Posted January 14, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 9 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,367 Content Per Day: 0.63 Reputation: 1,340 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/26/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted January 14, 2021 According to the Q'uran, Jesus should not be venerated as Lord (Hb. Adonai, Gk. Curios, Eng. Lord/Master/Owner). And we Christians who do so are idolaters. So the inconsistency is with the Muslim's understanding of their own claimed faith. There is no conditional proclamation of Lordship. If you confess Jesus as your Lord, then you declare Him your Master, and determine to seek His will without added conditions. It is fine at the start to confess Jesus as Lord and be wrong about pretty much everything else - so long as we are open to His subsequent correction and direction; i.e. His Lordship. If the confession of Lordship is sincere, the Holy Spirit can subsequently correct any error of understanding. But it is not sincere to claim Jesus as our Lord, but only if He meets certain conditions - such as 'if He allows me to be a Muslim' (i.e. if Jesus is not Lord of your whole life, then Jesus is not your Lord - and thus not your Saviour). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who me Posted January 14, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 17 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,300 Content Per Day: 1.72 Reputation: 1,686 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/27/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted January 14, 2021 Agree with patriot21, let scripture and the spirit do the convincing. I would add be a very good friend to this Muslim. Take lots of time to know them as they risk loosing everything. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Deborah_ Posted January 14, 2021 Group: Senior Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 790 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 878 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/07/2015 Status: Offline Popular Post Share Posted January 14, 2021 The Qur'an also states categorically that Jesus did NOT die on the cross. If that were really "the final word from God", then we have no forgiveness of our sins and there's no point in being a Christian. So you really can't be Christian and Muslim at the same time. You have to choose between them. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted January 14, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 905 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,646 Content Per Day: 2.02 Reputation: 5,832 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted January 14, 2021 8 hours ago, Completed Israelite said: If a Muslim asked a Christain, I want to accept Jesus as Messiah,Lord and savior. But I don't want to stop being Muslim, I still believe Muhammad was a great prophet, and the Koran is the final word from God, can I still take part in the New covenant? What would you reply? The Islamic faith is at odd with Christianity. Allah is the only god and he has no son (paraphrasing) is an Islamic mantra. I have encountered former Muslims over the years, to a man they knew immediately what they had to do if they truly wanted to become a believer in Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray12614 Posted January 14, 2021 Group: Senior Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 665 Content Per Day: 0.44 Reputation: 749 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/22/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted January 14, 2021 3 hours ago, Deborah_ said: The Qur'an also states categorically that Jesus did NOT die on the cross. If that were really "the final word from God", then we have no forgiveness of our sins and there's no point in being a Christian. So you really can't be Christian and Muslim at the same time. You have to choose between them. Agree completely. Saying they want to have Jesus as Lord, and practice Islam, is like saying 'I want to be married, but only if I can continue being intimate with all my old girl friends' It is a false Christianity at best, and betraying Jesus at worst. Jesus was very clear when He said that He is THE WAY, THE TRUTH, and THE LIFE, no man can come to the Father EXCEPT THRU HIM. Anything 'less' is NOT acceptable in Jesus' eyes. Ray . . . . . 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnOrangeCat Posted January 14, 2021 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 57 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,407 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 1,827 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/24/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted January 14, 2021 10 hours ago, Completed Israelite said: If a Muslim asked a Christain, I want to accept Jesus as Messiah,Lord and savior. But I don't want to stop being Muslim, I still believe Muhammad was a great prophet, and the Koran is the final word from God, can I still take part in the New covenant? What would you reply? I have to agree with what others have said here. Be a friend to them, but we can't really pretend that the two religions are compatible with one another. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted January 14, 2021 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.31 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Share Posted January 14, 2021 10 hours ago, Completed Israelite said: If a Muslim asked a Christain, I want to accept Jesus as Messiah,Lord and savior. But I don't want to stop being Muslim, I still believe Muhammad was a great prophet, and the Koran is the final word from God, can I still take part in the New covenant? What would you reply? I do not understand all things perfectly. Only God does. I might suggest that Christianity contains all the information you need to enter the kingdom of God. You don't need to draw from another source, and I think it's better if you don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Bought 1953 Posted January 14, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 13 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6,726 Content Per Day: 2.88 Reputation: 6,258 Days Won: 5 Joined: 12/03/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted January 14, 2021 Muslims believe that Jesus was a wise Prophet— nothing more......Allah had NO “ Son”.... Jesus was “ a” Son Of god.....not “ THE” Son Of God...... one little article of speech— the difference between Heaven and Hell ... a “ Muslim”, like anybody else, has to be like “ Lydia” from the Bible......God “ opened her heart “ to not only “ hear” the Gospel, but BELIEVE it..... “ Nobody can come to Jesus lest the Spirit draw him” if I had a Muslim friend, I would pray for them.....no different than I pray for many of my UNsaved friends.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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