I do not know why we have so many Christians who believe the entire Bible is written directly to them...

[steve morrow]

ALL  WHO  ARE  THE  BRETHREN  OF  THE  LORD

 

ROMANS 15:4  for whatsoever things were written aforetime ---were written for our learning--- that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope

LUKE 4:16  and  HE  came to nazareth where  HE  had been brought up ---and as  HIS  custom was---  HE  went into the synagogue on the sabbath day and stood up for to read

--4:17-- and there was delivered unto  HIM  the book of isaiah and when  HE  had opened the book  HE  found the place where it is written 

1 TIMOTHY 4:13  till  I  come give attendance to reading to exhortation to doctrine

EPHESIANS 5:19  speaking to yourselves in --psalms-- and hymms and spiritual songs singing and making melody in your heart to  THE  LORD

 

LUKE 24:44  and  HE  said unto them  these are the words which I spake unto you  while I was yet with you ---that all things must be fulfilled which were written in the law of moses --and in the prophets-- and in the psalms  --CONCERNING  ME--

 

LOVING  THE  LORD  JESUS  CHRIST

[Ray12614]

On 2/11/2021 at 2:45 AM, Justin Adams said:

Wed Nisan 14 to Sat eve Nisan 17.

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YES!!! Exactly!!!  This is probably a little off-topic, but, I have found very few brothers/sisters in the Lord who understand this, and it is spot-on! I know of a several people who won't believe the Gospel because they could not get past the 'Friday crucifixion' narrative (they can do simple math concerning 3 days and 3 nights before the resurrection). Other attempted explanations for the traditional Friday crucifixion are shallow and involve custom interpretations of 'partial days' and ignore the 'high sabbaths' to keep the traditional Friday date.

I won't say more on this because it will take this thread off the rails; But it resonated with me, so I replied . . . LOL.

Ray . . . 

 

[Hopefully]

14 hours ago, Omegaman 3.0 said:

However, even that one is not in isolation, if continues with another "for":

Using one verse that you quoted as an example:

“This is what the Lord says: “Babylon will be powerful for 70 years. After that time, I will come to you people who are living in Babylon. I will keep my good promise to bring you back to Jerusalem.

I say this because I know the plans that I have for you.” This message is from the Lord. “I have good plans for you. I don’t plan to hurt you. I plan to give you hope and a good future.”
‭‭Jeremiah‬ ‭29:10-11‬ 

Verse 10 tells us who verse 11 is writing about.

 I was asking what verse do many people think applies to them but does not. Especially from the New Testament. 
 

I do see many actions to take in the Old Testament that do not apply to our new agreement in Christ.

The following is not directed to you Omega:

28 And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose.

Everyone who loves God and reads this should believe that it is true and applies to them. 
 

The only reason you would need to dissect this would be to explain to someone that even though they love God they may not be one of his elect. We are not called to do that, and it is not good news. We were asked to share good news.

There is some bad news to tell (consequences of sin) in spreading the word, but if our messages lead others to Christ, then they are left with good news only. 

Edited February 24, 2022 by Hopefully

[Omegaman 3.0]

32 minutes ago, Hopefully said:

28 And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose.

Everyone who loves God and reads this should believe that it is true and applies to them. 
 

The only reason you would need to dissect this would be to explain to someone that even though they love God they may not be one of his elect. We are not called to do that, and it is not good news. We were asked to share good news.

That verse is interesting. As I see it, all things probably means all things. What I mean there is that even things we see as bad, God turns for good, but that good is for those who love Him. 

As an extreme example of that, we have the terrible suffering and execution of only sinless man to have ever existed. That is a great evil, terribly unjust, but . . .  God turned it for good - salvation.

It might just be, that sometimes the good that happen which God turns for good, may not happen in our lifetimes, but are things that are seen in eternity. This is where faith comes in, looking past the temporary to the eternal, we have hope and confidence.

Regarding you comment that we are to share good news, of course that is true. I certainly do not make it a habit of discussing election with unbelievers, that is (I think) an in-house discussion, that even the saved have difficulty understanding and accepting.

However, I think the bad news, is what makes the good news to be good news. When I was and atheist, the gospel meant nothing to me. I believed that when I died, I would just go into a sort of permanent sleep, nothing about that was at all threatening, and of course the gospel seemed foolish, though mostly harmless.

I did not believe there was a God who I could sin against, so there was no need for good news, since there is no bad news.

Now of course, I understand that I was hopelessly under-informed!

 20But you, beloved, building yourselves up in your most holy faith and praying in the Holy Spirit, 21keep yourselves in the love of God, waiting for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ that leads to eternal life. 22And have mercy on those who doubt; 23save others by snatching them out of the fire; to others show mercy with fear, hating even the garment^g stained by the flesh. (Jude)

[Anne2]

15 hours ago, Omegaman 3.0 said:

I know, it is an old thread, but I have seen some things that ignore context, such as:

30 Then he brought them out and said, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?” 31 And they said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.” 

Some take that to mean that if they believe, then everyone in their home will be saved.

Another possibly is:

How about this?

1 Peter 3:20  Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:

Heb 11:7  By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.

In what context did Noah's faith save his house? 

Certainly Noah was warned, and feared God's wrath, built an ark which was the saving of his house from it.