Protestant? Catholic? Confused...

[Whyme]

On 2/11/2021 at 2:57 PM, Starise said:

Another way to see it is Jesus is the chief cornerstone. The stone the builders rejected. The cornerstone was the anchoring point in the wall. 

We are all chips off the main rock or little stones. God has been using men as his building blocks for thousands of years, so it is no great mystery to be referred to as a stone.Peter was only one among many and surely there was nothing more or nothing less indicated.

Scriptures interpret other scriptures. Any study of the cornerstone and building always brings up Christ who is the the "chief" cornerstone. If there is a cornerstone, there have to be other stones to build the wall or the whole story makes no sense. Who are these stones? Us.

Interesting. Peter does say we are stones in God's building. BUT like Peter we are just little stones and JESUS is the foundation that these rocks rest on.

[Whyme]

8 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said:

Peter is the one God called first to preached the Gospel to the  Gentiles.

This happened when the Jesus Christ set him apart from his mission to the Roman Gentiled Cornelius family. 

The first time when Peter preached the Gospel to the Jews at the day of Pentecost and the second time when he preached the Gospel to Cornelius family when the Holy Spirit fell upon the uncircumcised and unbaptise Roman Gentiles in exactly the same unmistakable way as it happened in the day of Pentecost. 

Peter is the Rock upon which Jesus built his church. 

Peter is a living stone like we are but Christ is the foundation that the church is built on

[Waggles]

Build Your House on the Rock
Luke 6:46  And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say? 
6:47  Whosoever cometh to me, and hears my sayings, and does them, I will show you to whom he is like: 
6:48  He is like a man which built a house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock. 
6:49  But he that hears, and does not, is like a man that without a foundation built an house upon the earth; against which the stream did beat vehemently, and immediately it fell; and the ruin of that house was great. 

That rock is Jesus and the word of God.

[Waggles]

1Cor 3:9  For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building. 
3:10  According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another builds thereon. But let every man take heed how he builds thereupon. 
3:11  For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 

No mention of Peter here.

[Your closest friendnt]

28 minutes ago, Whyme said:

Peter is a living stone like we are but Christ is the foundation that the church is built on

Mathew 16:18

NIV
18 And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.

NLT
18 Now I say to you that you are Peter (which means ‘rock’), and upon this rock I will build my church, and all the powers of hell will not conquer it. 

Mathew 16:17

NIV
17 Jesus replied, "Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven.

N L T
17 Jesus replied, “You are blessed, Simon son of John, because my Father in heaven has revealed this to you. You did not learn this from any human being.

Amen

[Waggles]

Isaiah 28:16  Therefore thus saith the Lord God: Behold I will lay a stone in the foundations of Sion, a tried stone, a corner stone, a precious stone, founded in the foundation. He that believeth, let him not hasten.

[Waggles]

Daniel 2:32  The head of this statue was of fine gold, but the breast and the arms of silver, and the belly and the thighs of brass. 
33  And the legs of iron, the feet part of iron and part of clay. 
34  Thus thou saw, till a stone was cut out of a mountain without hands: and it struck the statue upon the feet thereof that were of iron and clay, and broke them in pieces. 
35  Then was the iron, the clay, the brass, the silver, and the gold broken to pieces together, and became like the chaff of a summer's threshing floor, and they were carried away by the wind: and there was no place found for them: but the stone that struck the statue became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth. 

This is about Jesus not Peter. 

[Whyme]

6 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

Mathew 16:18

NIV
18 And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.

NLT
18 Now I say to you that you are Peter (which means ‘rock’), and upon this rock I will build my church, and all the powers of hell will not conquer it. 

Mathew 16:17

NIV
17 Jesus replied, "Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven.

N L T
17 Jesus replied, “You are blessed, Simon son of John, because my Father in heaven has revealed this to you. You did not learn this from any human being.

Amen

Peter and Jesus are both symbolized as Rocks. But who is the rock that the church is built on? Is Christ the rock that the foundation Peter is built built on? Is that the Catholic argument? 

 

[LearningToLetGo]

Re: petros & petra, did this conversation take place in Aramaic or Greek? Was Matthew's original manuscript in Aramaic or Greek? Does it matter?

[Waggles]

You can obtain New Testaments written in Aramaic (which I believe is still spoken in Syria today).