40,000 years of history? Man before Adam?

[BeyondET]

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Edited February 22, 2021 by BeyondET

[johnthebaptist]

8 minutes ago, BeyondET said:

That’s interesting what you said, I don’t recall the Bible directly mentioning the earth being created 6000 yrs ago.

the theory is based off of man counting generations, which even that I haven’t recalled the Bible saying to do so and the theory will be correct on the age of the earth and stars, universe etc.

I never used 6000 as a figure - but that would be an approximate estimate people use, I believe.

[BeyondET]

1 minute ago, johnthebaptist said:

I never used 6000 as a figure - but that would be an approximate estimate people use, I believe.

true that I fixed it, sorry my fault 

Edited February 22, 2021 by BeyondET

[Riverwalker]

5 hours ago, johnthebaptist said:

Science says the world is billions of years old, but God could have created a world that only appeared to be billions of years old. So is the creation story literal or symbolic? You believe it is literal. One thing I know for sure: I wasn't there.

I believe what God has told me, in His word. I cannot think of a single reason for Him to lie to me.

[Riverwalker]

1 hour ago, johnthebaptist said:

I think someone asked why God would trick us by saying he had created the world at such and such a time, when really the world was billions of years old. But I might counter by saying, "Why would the Lord 'trick us' by creating a world that scientically appears to be billions of years old, when in fact, the Lord created it just a few thousand years ago?"

I don't know if the creation story is literal or symbolic. I am just showing you the case for symbolism.

I am aware of the genealogies.

You would only be "tricked by this", if you did not take God at His word and instead allowed yourself to be swayed by the vagaries of men

 

[johnthebaptist]

12 minutes ago, Riverwalker said:

You would only be "tricked by this", if you did not take God at His word and instead allowed yourself to be swayed by the vagaries of men

 

How would you define "God's Word"? I would define it as those times in the Bible when God or Jesus are quoted.

[LearningToLetGo]

I think there is legitimate cause for questioning in topics like this.

For example: Genesis 4:13-14 (ESV)

13 Cain said to the Lord, “My punishment is greater than I can bear. 14 Behold, you have driven me today away from the ground, and from your face I shall be hidden. I shall be a fugitive and a wanderer on the earth, and whoever finds me will kill me.”

Taking this as an example, we know that there are supposedly four human beings at this time (Adam, Eve, Cain, Abel) and one of them (Abel) is dead. Given this, why would Cain say "whoever finds me will kill me", since who else is there to find him?

[Riverwalker]

8 minutes ago, johnthebaptist said:

How would you define "God's Word"? I would define it as those times in the Bible when God or Jesus are quoted.

Genesis 1 - Revelation 22

And by what criteria have you made your judgment

2 Timothy 3:16

All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness,

[Riverwalker]

1 minute ago, LearningToLetGo said:

I think there is legitimate cause for questioning in topics like this.

For example: Genesis 4:13-14 (ESV)

13 Cain said to the Lord, “My punishment is greater than I can bear. 14 Behold, you have driven me today away from the ground, and from your face I shall be hidden. I shall be a fugitive and a wanderer on the earth, and whoever finds me will kill me.”

Taking this as an example, we know that there are supposedly four human beings at this time (Adam, Eve, Cain, Abel) and one of them (Abel) is dead. Given this, why would Cain say "whoever finds me will kill me", since who else is there to find him?

And yet the explanation is in Genesiss 5:4 After he begot Seth, the days of Adam were eight hundred years; and he had sons and daughters. 5 So all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years; and he died.

Edited February 22, 2021 by Riverwalker

[johnthebaptist]

Just now, Riverwalker said:

Genesis 1 - Revelation 22

And by what criteria have you made your judgment

2 Timothy 3:16

All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness,

Paul tells us women shouldn't speak in church buildings (1 Corinthians 14:33-36). Are you okay with women speaking in church buildings?