Who is the anti-christ?

[JohnD]

1 hour ago, LadyKay said:

If I answered this with what I really think. It will derail the thread and close it down. 

We have disagreed in the past, but I would be interested in what you have to say. PM me

if you are comfortable doing so.

[JohnD]

1 hour ago, David1701 said:

The anti-Christ is the "Pope", who sits in the temple of God (the professing Church), claims authority to change times and laws, makes war on true Christians (millions have been tortured and murdered on his authority), has titles of blasphemy (including "Holy Father" and "Vicar of Christ", and this latter one means "Instead of Christ", i.e. anti-Christ), is head of the one of the richest organisations on Earth, leaders of the world bow down to him and kiss his ring in obeisance, etc, etc..

One of the mainstays of the Reformation was that the "Pope" is the anti-Christ.

I've heard this one before. Dave Hunt really championed this one in his day. Good man. But I believe the papal leadership of the Roman Catholic Church is AN antichrist not THE anitchrist (who may serve as a pope when he arrives...)... ???

[Ozarkbound]

I thought our focus was to be on Christ. I would love to see more threads about where our focus should be on this forum. I mean how many threads about this topic is really needed?

 I am not great at starting topics, or would start them myself. I enjoy reading.

[JohnD]

Just now, JohnD said:

I've heard this one before. Dave Hunt really championed this one in his day. Good man. But I believe the papal leadership of the Roman Catholic Church is AN antichrist not THE anitchrist (who may serve as a pope when he arrives...)... ???

Let me clarify where I [meaning me] come from. I believe Roman Emperor Constantine was one of the apocalyptic horseman (an antichrist) who rode with a bow but no arrows conquering and to conquer. This introduced a major influx of the traditions of man into the Church...

[JohnD]

2 minutes ago, Ozarkbound said:

I thought our focus was to be on Christ. I would love to see more threads about where our focus should be on this forum. I mean how many threads about this topic is really needed?

 I am not great at starting topics, or would start them myself. I enjoy reading.

Your input is welcome.

While our main focus is on Christ, he himself warned of false Christs

that could deceive the very elect if that were possible.

So, it makes sense to know our enemy, does it not?

 

[David1701]

Just now, JohnD said:

I've heard this one before. Dave Hunt really championed this one in his day. Good man. But I believe the papal leadership of the Roman Catholic Church is AN antichrist not THE anitchrist (who may serve as a pope when he arrives...)... ???

But the anti-Christ arose out of the ten ruling kingdoms into which the Roman Empire split.  This was long ago.

There will be a final person in that office.  If you want to call that person THE anti-Christ, then that could be argued.

[JohnD]

3 minutes ago, David1701 said:

But the anti-Christ arose out of the ten ruling kingdoms into which the Roman Empire split.  This was long ago.

There will be a final person in that office.  If you want to call that person THE anti-Christ, then that could be argued.

Jesus made the point however...

John 5:43 (AV)
43 I am come in my Father’s name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.

He was speaking top Jews.

Would Jews be willing to accept a Pope? 

[Ozarkbound]

4 minutes ago, JohnD said:

Your input is welcome.

While our main focus is on Christ, he himself warned of false Christs

that could deceive the very elect if that were possible.

So, it makes sense to know our enemy, does it not?

 

Thank you, I understand what you are saying, but there is a huge imbalance here.

There are 1,098,876etc, etc, etc.  threads on the Antichrist, tribulation, rapture..you know the exciting stuff that makes people tingle. There are remarkably few on how to witness and the Great Commission, which is more in line with what God wants us to be spending time on.

Scripture tells us to think on those things that are lovely.

 

 

[JohnD]

Just now, Ozarkbound said:

Thank you, I understand what you are saying, but there is a huge imbalance here.

There are 1,098,876etc, etc, etc.  threads on the Antichrist, tribulation, rapture..you know the exciting stuff that makes people tingle. There are remarkably few on how to witness and the Great Commission, which is more in line with what God wants us to be spending time on.

Scripture tells us to think on those things that are lovely.

 

 

Good point. If you search my history you will find me doing just as you desire most of the time.

[Ozarkbound]

8 minutes ago, JohnD said:

Good point. If you search my history you will find me doing just as you desire most of the time.

I have read a lot of your work and enjoyed it.