Do We Still Have A Sin Nature

[Peterlag]

12 hours ago, Whyme said:

Sounds like Paul struggled with sin?

Andrew Farley has a great 7 part teaching on this he did 4 years ago that's on YouTube called... The New Creation. Perhaps you would enjoy learning more about this sin nature.

[johnthebaptist]

4 minutes ago, Peterlag said:

Andrew Farley has a great 7 part teaching on this he did 4 years ago that's on YouTube called... The New Creation. Perhaps you would enjoy learning more about this sin nature.

Who is Andrew Farley?

[Peterlag]

11 hours ago, Whyme said:

I'm far from perfect. In many ways I'm defeated but I keep getting back up and trying. Recently I've been meditating on gods love and staying within it. 

Andrew Farley has a great 7 part teaching on this he did 4 years ago that's on YouTube called... The New Creation. Perhaps you would enjoy learning more about this sin nature.

[Peterlag]

9 hours ago, johnthebaptist said:

You've stopped sinning completely?

Andrew Farley has a great 7 part teaching on this he did 4 years ago that's on YouTube called... The New Creation. Perhaps you would enjoy learning more about this sin nature.

[Peterlag]

9 hours ago, Marathoner said:

As you say. 

Andrew Farley has a great 7 part teaching on this he did 4 years ago that's on YouTube called... The New Creation. Perhaps you would enjoy learning more about this sin nature.

[Guest clancy]

On 3/9/2021 at 10:58 PM, Peterlag said:

I see the "sin nature" as something that existed before Jesus Christ destroyed it when the spirit of Christ came within the believer. This spirit is indeed a life form that is in all Christians and it seems to me one cannot understand and therefore function or be in the spirit if our old nature (which is dead) thinks in it's unrenewed mind that it suppose to be fighting against the new nature. Paul wrote in Galatians 2:20, "I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me:" That's what I'm talking about. I now understand being in Christ is being in the spirit and neither of them (in Christ or in the spirit) has anything to do with the darn flesh. It now seems perfectly clear to walk in the spirit is the same as putting on the Lord Jesus Christ.

And so in my mind the 4 verses below fit perfectly. Every single person I know has told me about Romans 7 when I tell them I do not believe Paul taught about a "sin nature" for the Christian. What Paul talks about in the seventh chapter of Romans is what occurs to the believer who still thinks the Law applies to them. They end up spiritually dying by the commandment and realize that the commandment does not produce life. The war is with their flesh because they are still believing the Law has power over them. In the eighth chapter of Romans is where it explains how we overcome this whole issue by living in the spirit and being dead to the Law. We cannot live by faith in what Christ has done for us and still think our obedience to written laws are necessary. To do so takes away from the perfect work of Christ and places salvation and righteousness back in our own hands.

Romans 6:2
How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

Romans 6:6
Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

Galatians 5:16,18
This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.

But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Hi Peter, the sinful nature has died with Christ, therefore we have a new one in Christ,..he renews our minds daily and he deals with the old man?

 

This is me asking you that question??

[Peterlag]

5 minutes ago, clancy said:

Hi Peter, the sinful nature has died with Christ, therefore we have a new one in Christ,..he renews our minds daily and he deals with the old man?

 

This is me asking you that question??

Andrew Farley has a great 7 part teaching on this he did 4 years ago that's on YouTube called... The New Creation. Perhaps you would enjoy learning more about this sin nature.

[OneLight]

45 minutes ago, Peterlag said:

Andrew Farley has a great 7 part teaching on this he did 4 years ago that's on YouTube called... The New Creation. Perhaps you would enjoy learning more about this sin nature.

I reject any teaching that tries to teach me that this flesh cannot sin, which is a lie straight from the pit.  Our goal is to live a sinless life, but that does not mean we do not sin.  You see, living a sinless life is living a perfect life.  Only Jesus is perfect, we are not.  The train of thought that we can live a sinless life is called self-righteousness.

[Mike Mclees]

21 minutes ago, clancy said:

Hi Peter, the sinful nature has died with Christ, therefore we have a new one in Christ,..he renews our minds daily and he deals with the old man?

 

This is me asking you that question??

Depends on the the variables of the sins and what you do to deal it. It is obvious that Sin can will be with us or there would be no scripture to find forgiveness. Scripture like come boldly to the throne of grace  to find help us in our hour of need.  Those who do  habitually sin and fail to deal with it before Christ have a great problem, but Look at the alcoholic or drug  addict  who has a slip. They are at war with the flesh and the spirit. Can not God know how to save him or will he  be condemned. Only our lord can be the judge.     

Edited March 11, 2021 by Mike Mclees

[Peterlag]

2 hours ago, johnthebaptist said:

Who is Andrew Farley?

Search for Andrew Farley New creation on YouTube and you will have the answer to your question.