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14 minutes ago, Arrabon said:

 

@Riverwalker and @David1701

Actually guys, Jesus said in John 6:44, "No one can come to me (Jesus), unless the Father who sent Me (Jesus) draws them to me (Jesus).

God has his own timing gentlemen, and He decides through the Holy Spirit when your calling is at hand, that way you can take "no credit" for any part of your calling or salvation.

Ephesians 2:8 underscores this, "By grace you are saved through faith, and that not of yourselves. it is the GIFT OF GOD."

Our place is to respond to God, not create the situation which is only Gods to do, and He is the only one capable of doing.

My name is Arrabon.

This one it needs to be purified.  

What are going to say when someone does not believe. 

Should we say that God does not want to draw him to Jesus?  


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1 hour ago, Your closest friendnt said:

This one it needs to be purified.  

What are going to say when someone does not believe. 

Should we say that God does not want to draw him to Jesus?  

@Your closest friendnt

You and everyone here knows that God wants all men to be saved and calls all men to His truth, but as it says in 2 Timothy 3:7, "they will always be learning but never come to the knowledge of GODS TRUTH" - like MANY of you.

2 Timothy 3:5 says, "Having a form of Godliness, they deny it's power." Like MANY of you.

Proverbs 14:12, "There is a way that seems right to a man, but it's end is the way of death - Like MANY of you.

2 Thessalonians :10-12, "They perish because they did not accept the love of the truth in order to be saved." - Like MANY of you.

FINALLY - If you don't believe "LIKE MANY OF YOU" read Matthew 7:13-14 & 21.

(13) Enter by the narrow gate; for the way is "broad" that leads to destruction, and >"MANY"< are those who enter by it. (14) For the gate is small, and the way is "narrow" that leads to Me (Jesus), and >"FEW"< are those who find it. - SCARY but true.

And another  FINALLY, Matthew 7:21, "Not everyone who says to me Lord, Lord, will enter the kingdom of heaven, but (Only) he who does the will of my Father in heaven."(22),  MANY will say to me on that day, Lord, Lord, did we not prophecy in your name and in Your name cast out demons, and in your name perform many miracles?" "And then I (Jesus_ will declare to them, depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness."

Most of you are GOING to HELL, as God says above, and if I were you I'd be worried about that instead of trying to prove on this forum how much smarter you are than others here.

I may be going to HELL too, but I am worried about that, and work on that everyday and pray about it everyday because the thought Terrifys me !!!!! ARE YOU TERRIFIED?

Hebrews 10:31, "Its a terrifying thing to fall into the hands of the living God." !!!

My name is ARRABON

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2 hours ago, Arrabon said:

 

@Riverwalker and @David1701

Actually guys, Jesus said in John 6:44, "No one can come to me (Jesus), unless the Father who sent Me (Jesus) draws them to me (Jesus).

God has his own timing gentlemen, and He decides through the Holy Spirit when your calling is at hand, that way you can take "no credit" for any part of your calling or salvation.

Ephesians 2:8 underscores this, "By grace you are saved through faith, and that not of yourselves. it is the GIFT OF GOD."

Our place is to respond to God, not create the situation which is only Gods to do, and He is the only one capable of doing.

My name is Arrabon.

I do not accept the teachings of Calvinism. Our choice Our action is an integral part of Our Salvation

As with any gift it is laid before us, but it is not forved on us, we can take it, or leave it

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2 hours ago, David1701 said:

Actually, we MUST be born again, which is something that GOD does.

IF we believe. 

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2 minutes ago, Riverwalker said:

I do not accept the teachings of Calvinism

@Riverwalker

I know nothing of Calvinism or any other "ISMS" of teaching.

I know only Christ and Him crucified, and the truth of His word and none others, for there is no truth in anyone but Christ.

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Hebrews 3:4-7

 

For when one says, “I am of Paul,” and another, “I am of Apollos,” are you not carnal?

Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers through whom you believed, as the Lord gave to each one? I planted, Apollos watered, but God gave the increase. So then neither he who plants is anything, nor he who waters, but God who gives the increase.

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Posted
2 hours ago, Riverwalker said:

I do not accept the teachings of Calvinism. Our choice Our action is an integral part of Our Salvation

As with any gift it is laid before us, but it is not forved on us, we can take it, or leave it

Hello Rw, I have been thinking a lot about how we approach what Jesus said to his disciples.  

***John 6:44

No one can come to me unless the Father draws them to me. 

** that time Jesus was Jesus. 

He was not the same as he is today, or since the day of Penticost.  

That time he was without the Paracletous. 

In John 16 and 17 Jesus talked about himself how he was without the Paracletous and he said to his disciples that He and them and us we need the Paracletous. 

Jesus said without the Paracletous I will have to stay with you and how good can I be to you? 

I cannot be with all of you at the same time when you are scatter, but with the Paracletous I can.

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Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, Riverwalker said:

I do not accept the teachings of Calvinism. Our choice Our action is an integral part of Our Salvation

As with any gift it is laid before us, but it is not forved on us, we can take it, or leave it

Not for me it wasn’t, God drew me to Jesus and I was born again, he testified to my spirit that I am his child.

my response was an open heart that was opened by God to receive automatically his Holy Spirit.

I now belong to him, he is in complete control of my life, and has been for 30 yrs.

You can’t limit how God saves his children.

God saves his way, not our way....his ways are much higher than our ways so are his thoughts much higher than ours.

i can show you scripture on how the wind blows but you don’t know where it’s coming from, etc.

And what has Calvin got to do with it?

i have been accused of being a Calvinist, who I’d never heard of ?

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Posted
9 hours ago, Riverwalker said:

God does not need a very big opening to come into our lives, we just have to open the door a crack

 

Actually, God had opened my heart, when he drew me to Jesus.?

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Posted
6 hours ago, David1701 said:

Actually, we MUST be born again, which is something that GOD does.

In Jesus Name, Amen David....,Praise God!.....

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Posted
3 hours ago, Riverwalker said:

IF we believe. 

It’s the work of God if “ WE” believe in Him.....

Not ourselves....

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