Do you celebrate Christmas?

[MrSealedEternal]

If Christians don't worship this idolotrous symbol, why are they so hesitant to give it up? God tells us that it is idolotry, and that it is foolish and stupid to do it, so why do Christians refuse to listen to Him?

Did you give up your TV, radio, coffee pot, newspaper, computer... so on and so forth? If you are going to condemn one form of idolatry, then you have to include them all, otherwise you are only creating hardship for your self.

I don't see the parallel between pagan holidays and coffee pots. As far as I know coffee wasn't founded by Satan in order to bring himself worship. The solstice was created by Satan for that purpose. Again, If the Catholic Church hadn't brought Babylonian paganism into so-called Christianity, we'd never need to have this discussion. If this pagan holiday isn't an idol, what is the attachment to it? It has nothing to do with the Bible or anything associated with truth, so why do it?

God tells us to separate from things associated with idolotry, and not to incorporate them into the worship of Him. Jeremiah 10 sure sounds to me like a Christ'smass tree, but even if it isn't no one can deny that this holiday can be traced back to the Babylonian mysteries and the worship of false gods. There is no logical reason for Christians to get involved in this nonsense, and it certainly isn't pleasing to our Lord.

Why on earth would the pagans call their holiday Christmas?

A better question is why would Christians call a holiday Christ's mass?

"Mass" is from the Roman Catholic sacrament of the mass. Certainly born-again Christians shouldn't have anything to do with masses. The mass is a Roman Catholic invention, and is a prayer that is read or sung for the soul of a dead person.

Every time you say "Merry Christmas," you are actually mixing the precious and holy name of Christ with a demon holiday. The Lord tells us in no unmistakable language that we are not to mix His name with any pagan holiday or with a pagan god. The Lord says in Ezekiel 20: 39, "As for you, O house of Israel," thus says the Lord GOD, "Go, serve everyone his idols; but later you will surely listen to Me, and My holy name you will profane no longer with your gifts and with your idols.

[Gerioke]

If Christians don't worship this idolotrous symbol, why are they so hesitant to give it up? God tells us that it is idolotry, and that it is foolish and stupid to do it, so why do Christians refuse to listen to Him?

Did you give up your TV, radio, coffee pot, newspaper, computer... so on and so forth? If you are going to condemn one form of idolatry, then you have to include them all, otherwise you are only creating hardship for your self.

I don't see the parallel between pagan holidays and coffee pots. As far as I know coffee wasn't founded by Satan in order to bring himself worship. The solstice was created by Satan for that purpose. Again, If the Catholic Church hadn't brought Babylonian paganism into so-called Christianity, we'd never need to have this discussion. If this pagan holiday isn't an idol, what is the attachment to it? It has nothing to do with the Bible or anything associated with truth, so why do it?

God tells us to separate from things associated with idolotry, and not to incorporate them into the worship of Him. Jeremiah 10 sure sounds to me like a Christ'smass tree, but even if it isn't no one can deny that this holiday can be traced back to the Babylonian mysteries and the worship of false gods. There is no logical reason for Christians to get involved in this nonsense, and it certainly isn't pleasing to our Lord.

Why on earth would the pagans call their holiday Christmas?

A better question is why would Christians call a holiday Christ's mass?

"Mass" is from the Roman Catholic sacrament of the mass. Certainly born-again Christians shouldn't have anything to do with masses. The mass is a Roman Catholic invention, and is a prayer that is read or sung for the soul of a dead person.

Every time you say "Merry Christmas," you are actually mixing the precious and holy name of Christ with a demon holiday. The Lord tells us in no unmistakable language that we are not to mix His name with any pagan holiday or with a pagan god. The Lord says in Ezekiel 20: 39, "As for you, O house of Israel," thus says the Lord GOD, "Go, serve everyone his idols; but later you will surely listen to Me, and My holy name you will profane no longer with your gifts and with your idols.

Ahh... so you are a catholic basher as well. It's good to know you don't show any prejiduce in who you hate.

[Guest shiloh357]

If Christians don't worship this idolotrous symbol, why are they so hesitant to give it up? God tells us that it is idolotry, and that it is foolish and stupid to do it, so why do Christians refuse to listen to Him?

Did you give up your TV, radio, coffee pot, newspaper, computer... so on and so forth? If you are going to condemn one form of idolatry, then you have to include them all, otherwise you are only creating hardship for your self.

I don't see the parallel between pagan holidays and coffee pots. As far as I know coffee wasn't founded by Satan in order to bring himself worship. The solstice was created by Satan for that purpose. Again, If the Catholic Church hadn't brought Babylonian paganism into so-called Christianity, we'd never need to have this discussion. If this pagan holiday isn't an idol, what is the attachment to it? It has nothing to do with the Bible or anything associated with truth, so why do it?

God tells us to separate from things associated with idolotry, and not to incorporate them into the worship of Him. Jeremiah 10 sure sounds to me like a Christ'smass tree, but even if it isn't no one can deny that this holiday can be traced back to the Babylonian mysteries and the worship of false gods. There is no logical reason for Christians to get involved in this nonsense, and it certainly isn't pleasing to our Lord.

Why on earth would the pagans call their holiday Christmas?

A better question is why would Christians call a holiday Christ's mass?

"Mass" is from the Roman Catholic sacrament of the mass. Certainly born-again Christians shouldn't have anything to do with masses. The mass is a Roman Catholic invention, and is a prayer that is read or sung for the soul of a dead person.

Every time you say "Merry Christmas," you are actually mixing the precious and holy name of Christ with a demon holiday. The Lord tells us in no unmistakable language that we are not to mix His name with any pagan holiday or with a pagan god. The Lord says in Ezekiel 20: 39, "As for you, O house of Israel," thus says the Lord GOD, "Go, serve everyone his idols; but later you will surely listen to Me, and My holy name you will profane no longer with your gifts and with your idols.

Do you worship Christ on Sunday? Sunday was named after the "unconquerable sun" by the pagans. In fact, it is a known fact that every pagan religion from Egypt, Babylon, Greece, Rome, Phonecians, all had a god of the sun who was worshipped on the 1st day of the week.

Do you also use the names of the week? They are named after pagan gods; so are the months of the year. Most of the English language is a composite of Greek, Latin, and Germanic languages all of which come out of pagan cultures and the names of their gods are on our cars, shoes, even certain body parts are named after pagan deities. etc. Many English names for children are derivitives of the names of pagan gods.

When you have visited your perfectionism these customs, then you might have something credible to say about the name "Christmas." Until then, leave the hypocrisy at the door.

[MrSealedEternal]

Jeremiah 10 sure sounds to me like a Christ'smass tree, but even if it isn't no one can deny that this holiday can be traced back to the Babylonian mysteries and the worship of false gods. There is no logical reason for Christians to get involved in this nonsense, and it certainly isn't pleasing to our Lord.

You are trying to read the Christmas tree INTO Jeremiah 10 instead of letting the text speak for itself.

As for denying the paganism of Christmas. I can certainly deny that this holiday can be traced back to Babylon. Most of your so-called "pagan connections" are bogus, and the result of bargain-basement research, not solid, credible historical research.

The Christmas tree is just ONE example that demonstrates that you Christmas bashers don't know squat except from what you read from some "know-nothing" who posted something on his website. The Christmas bashers and their little amen-corner should take their canard elsewhere

It is factual history that Satan counterfeited the messiah with Nimrod, Semaramis, and Tammuz. Throughout history we have pagan relics of the mother and son worship that predates Christ's incarnation. There is evidence everywhere, and throughout all cultures and nations dating back to the Tower of Babel, but you refuse to see it. The Roman so-called "church" tried to give this Satanic counterfeit a "christian" veneer, while the leadership to this day recognizes who they really worship. They have many of the statues and paintings of Semaramis and Tammuz, but they give them Christian names. Catholics refer to Mary as the "Queen of Heaven" which was the title of Semaramis, and is referred to as a pagan goddess in scripture.

Jeremiah 7:18 "The children gather wood and the fathers kindle the fire and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the Queen of heaven and to pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke me to anger."

The pictures and statues of the "Madonna and Child" with the plates behind their heads, are not of Mary and Jesus. They are of the Babylonian gods and godesses. It is you that needs to study history. There's a spiritual battle going on here that you're seemingly oblivious to.

Read Revelation 17-18 where it describes this Babylonian Mystery religious system, being maintained until the end times when the beast will use it to gain power, and then destroy it.

I don't worship a baby like the pagans do. I worship the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. Christians need to wake up and come out of this idolotrous system.

Rev 18:1 After these things I saw another angel coming down from heaven, having great authority, and the earth was illumined with his glory. 2 And he cried out with a mighty voice, saying, "Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great! She has become a dwelling place of demons and a prison of every unclean spirit, and a prison of every unclean and hateful bird. 3 "For all the nations have drunk of the wine of the passion of her immorality, and the kings of the earth have committed acts of immorality with her, and the merchants of the earth have become rich by the wealth of her sensuality." 4 I heard another voice from heaven, saying, "Come out of her, my people, so that you will not participate in her sins and receive of her plagues; 5 for her sins have piled up as high as heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities.

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[MrSealedEternal]

Do you worship Christ on Sunday? Sunday was named after the "unconquerable sun" by the pagans. In fact, it is a known fact that every pagan religion from Egypt, Babylon, Greece, Rome, Phonecians, all had a god of the sun who was worshipped on the 1st day of the week.

Do you also use the names of the week? They are named after pagan gods; so are the months of the year. Most of the English language is a composite of Greek, Latin, and Germanic languages all of which come out of pagan cultures and the names of their gods are on our cars, shoes, even certain body parts are named after pagan deities. etc. Many English names for children are derivitives of the names of pagan gods.

When you have visited your perfectionism these customs, then you might have something credible to say about the name "Christmas." Until then, leave the hypocrisy at the door.

You're being intellectually dishonest now. I didn't name the days of the week, and I can't not participate in Sundays. We do however have the choice to not celebrate pagan holidays. I'm not being hypocritical here. If I could change the names of the days and months I would do that also, but I can't. I do not knowingly participate in idolotry when I have the ability to not do so.

[Gerioke]

I don't worship a baby like the pagans do. I worship the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. Christians need to wake up and come out of this idolotrous system.

I don't recall anyone indicating that they worship any one but Jesus, the Son of God.

[Guest shiloh357]

Do you worship Christ on Sunday? Sunday was named after the "unconquerable sun" by the pagans. In fact, it is a known fact that every pagan religion from Egypt, Babylon, Greece, Rome, Phonecians, all had a god of the sun who was worshipped on the 1st day of the week.

Do you also use the names of the week? They are named after pagan gods; so are the months of the year. Most of the English language is a composite of Greek, Latin, and Germanic languages all of which come out of pagan cultures and the names of their gods are on our cars, shoes, even certain body parts are named after pagan deities. etc. Many English names for children are derivitives of the names of pagan gods.

When you have visited your perfectionism these customs, then you might have something credible to say about the name "Christmas." Until then, leave the hypocrisy at the door.

You're being intellectually dishonest now. I didn't name the days of the week, and I can't not participate in Sundays. We do however have the choice to not celebrate pagan holidays. I'm not being hypocritical here. If I could change the names of the days and months I would do that also, but I can't. I do not knowingly participate in idolotry when I have the ability to not do so.

No, I am not being intellectually dishonest. If celebrating Christs birth on Dec. 25 is wrong because of the "pagan" connections tied to it, then worshipping Jesus on the day that every other pagan deity was worshipped on, is just as wrong. I am not dishonest, I am simply pointing out an internal insconsistency in your approach. The same "system" that replaced Mithraism with Christmas is the same system that replaced the worhip of pagan gods on Sunday with the worship of Jesus on Sunday. You are applying a different standard to the "pagan" holy days that you WANT to observe, than you do to the ones you don't want to observe. You are inconsistent, and it is apparent.

[MrSealedEternal]

Do you worship Christ on Sunday? Sunday was named after the "unconquerable sun" by the pagans. In fact, it is a known fact that every pagan religion from Egypt, Babylon, Greece, Rome, Phonecians, all had a god of the sun who was worshipped on the 1st day of the week.

Do you also use the names of the week? They are named after pagan gods; so are the months of the year. Most of the English language is a composite of Greek, Latin, and Germanic languages all of which come out of pagan cultures and the names of their gods are on our cars, shoes, even certain body parts are named after pagan deities. etc. Many English names for children are derivitives of the names of pagan gods.

When you have visited your perfectionism these customs, then you might have something credible to say about the name "Christmas." Until then, leave the hypocrisy at the door.

You're being intellectually dishonest now. I didn't name the days of the week, and I can't not participate in Sundays. We do however have the choice to not celebrate pagan holidays. I'm not being hypocritical here. If I could change the names of the days and months I would do that also, but I can't. I do not knowingly participate in idolotry when I have the ability to not do so.

No, I am not being intellectually dishonest. If celebrating Christs birth on Dec. 25 is wrong because of the "pagan" connections tied to it, then worshipping Jesus on the day that every other pagan deity was worshipped on, is just as wrong. I am not dishonest, I am simply pointing out an internal insconsistency in your approach. The same "system" that replaced Mithraism with Christmas is the same system that replaced the worhip of pagan gods on Sunday with the worship of Jesus on Sunday. You are applying a different standard to the "pagan" holy days that you WANT to observe, than you do to the ones you don't want to observe. You are inconsistent, and it is apparent.

I don't think Christians should worship on Sunday to replace the pagan system either. We have the one true Lord of Lords and king of Kings. We don't need to copy any pagan system, and it is foolishness to do so. I have no problem with worshipping God on Dec. 25 or on Sunday, but don't do it in the traditions of paganism, and don't try to claim that it is Christ's birthdate when it isn't.

I celebrate Christ every day, but my Christ is the Alpha and Omega, not some infant in a manger. I do it in truth, and don't need to participate in lies and pagan traditions when I do it. Again, you're only doing this because the Catholic Church blended paganism and Christianity together, and this whole arguement would be moot, if you weren't so enslaved to the traditions of men. This day is not to honor Christ, it is because people love the traditions involved with it, and refuse to listen to His commands not to yoke idolotry together with worship of Him.

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[samilad]

Santa Claus isn't real.

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Shut yo' mouth!

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What do you mean "Santa Claus isn't real"? Who told you that?

[Gerioke]

Do you worship Christ on Sunday? Sunday was named after the "unconquerable sun" by the pagans. In fact, it is a known fact that every pagan religion from Egypt, Babylon, Greece, Rome, Phonecians, all had a god of the sun who was worshipped on the 1st day of the week.

Do you also use the names of the week? They are named after pagan gods; so are the months of the year. Most of the English language is a composite of Greek, Latin, and Germanic languages all of which come out of pagan cultures and the names of their gods are on our cars, shoes, even certain body parts are named after pagan deities. etc. Many English names for children are derivitives of the names of pagan gods.

When you have visited your perfectionism these customs, then you might have something credible to say about the name "Christmas." Until then, leave the hypocrisy at the door.

You're being intellectually dishonest now. I didn't name the days of the week, and I can't not participate in Sundays. We do however have the choice to not celebrate pagan holidays. I'm not being hypocritical here. If I could change the names of the days and months I would do that also, but I can't. I do not knowingly participate in idolotry when I have the ability to not do so.

No, I am not being intellectually dishonest. If celebrating Christs birth on Dec. 25 is wrong because of the "pagan" connections tied to it, then worshipping Jesus on the day that every other pagan deity was worshipped on, is just as wrong. I am not dishonest, I am simply pointing out an internal insconsistency in your approach. The same "system" that replaced Mithraism with Christmas is the same system that replaced the worhip of pagan gods on Sunday with the worship of Jesus on Sunday. You are applying a different standard to the "pagan" holy days that you WANT to observe, than you do to the ones you don't want to observe. You are inconsistent, and it is apparent.

I don't think Christians should worship on Sunday to replace the pagan system either. We have the one true Lord of Lords and king of Kings. We don't need to copy any pagan system, and it is foolishness to do so. I have no problem with worshipping God on Dec. 25 or on Sunday, but don't do it in the traditions of paganism, and don't try to claim that it is Christ's birthdate when it isn't.

I celebrate Christ every day, but my Christ is the Alpha and Omega, not some infant in a manger. I do it in truth, and don't need to participate in lies and pagan traditions when I do it. Again, you're only doing this because the Catholic Church blended paganism and Christianity together, and this whole arguement would be moot, if you weren't so enslaved to the traditions of men. This day is not to honor Christ, it is because people love the traditions involved with it, and refuse to listen to His commands not to yoke idolotry together with worship of Him.

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It must be a bummer to not have a birthday. How do you tell how old you are?