The sower parable

[Riverwalker]

2 minutes ago, Whyme said:

What?

let us expand the scripture

Gal 5: 16 I say then: Walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh. 17 For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, so that you do not do the things that you wish. 18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.

19 Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: [d]adultery, [e]fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, 21 envy, [f]murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 [g]gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law. 24 And those who are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. 25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. 26 Let us not become conceited, provoking one another, envying one another.

[Whyme]

49 minutes ago, Sower said:

 

You may consider this when considering what you originally said above; quote

"i think how we can fall away or not become fruitful"

 Can you elaborate? 

 

[Whyme]

1 hour ago, Sower said:

 

You may consider this when considering what you originally said above; quote

"i think how we can fall away or not become fruitful"

 

Can you please elaborate?

[Whyme]

34 minutes ago, Riverwalker said:

let us expand the scripture

Gal 5: 16 I say then: Walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh. 17 For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, so that you do not do the things that you wish. 18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.

19 Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: [d]adultery, [e]fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, 21 envy, [f]murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 [g]gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law. 24 And those who are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. 25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. 26 Let us not become conceited, provoking one another, envying one another.

I meant to ask what u meant when u said "all well to that"

[PeterR]

1 hour ago, Riverwalker said:

let us expand the scripture

Gal 5: 16 I say then: Walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh. 17 For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, so that you do not do the things that you wish. 18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.

19 Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: [d]adultery, [e]fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, 21 envy, [f]murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 [g]gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law. 24 And those who are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. 25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. 26 Let us not become conceited, provoking one another, envying one another.

Could you please explain how this relates to the fruit in the parable of the sower?
30x kindness, 60x self-control?

[Sower]

16 minutes ago, Whyme said:

Can you please elaborate?

I quoted you;

When i think of that parable i think how we can fall away or not become fruitful. The cares of this life or the hardships of persecution can cause us to be unfruitful. 

Our responses here, with one another, can be fruitful, or not.
Do I respond to you in the spirit,
or do I respond in the flesh.

Several here have been trying to be helpful to answer your questions.
You have shown you do not appreciate the answers.
We tried to stick to the post. Not the poster.

[Marilyn C]

2 hours ago, Whyme said:

No one answeted my question about the definition of fruot. Not going to argue. I guess this topic is a waste of time. My appolgies for wasting your time. 

Hi Whyme,

Good question as it highlights how we, today read God`s word as ALL ABOUT US. It is for us to read and learn from but it is NOT ALL ABOUT US. 

So reading the context we see that Jesus is talking to the people of Israel BEFORE the cross. So any `fruit of the Spirit` is NOT what it is about for the Spirit was not given before the cross.

If we read Matt. 13: 14 & 15 we see that it is the prophecy of Isaiah talking about Israel that they would become dull of hearing and seeing. And that is exactly what the generation was when Jesus was manifest as a man on earth.

So the `fruit` that Jesus is talking about pre-cross for those who would receive His word, is `acts of righteousness.`  

`And what more can I say? For the time would fail me to tell of Gideon and Barak and Samson and Jephthah, also of David and Samuel and the prophets who through faith subdued kingdoms, WORKED RIGHTEOUSNESS, ....` (Heb. 11: 32 & 33)

Those are examples in Israel`s past of those bearing fruit of righteousness by obeying what God said.

Today AFTER the cross we have received the Holy Spirit and are thus righteous in Christ. Our `fruit` is the fruit of the Spirit as we obey Him.

regards, Marilyn.

[PeterR]

27 minutes ago, Marilyn C said:

Our `fruit` is the fruit of the Spirit as we obey Him.

The context shows that this fruit is the same but the soil is different. It becomes clear from this that we are also "obedient" in the same way. The issue of conditions matters.

[Whyme]

38 minutes ago, Sower said:

I quoted you;

When i think of that parable i think how we can fall away or not become fruitful. The cares of this life or the hardships of persecution can cause us to be unfruitful. 

Our responses here, with one another, can be fruitful, or not.
Do I respond to you in the spirit,
or do I respond in the flesh.

Several here have been trying to be helpful to answer your questions.
You have shown you do not appreciate the answers.
We tried to stick to the post. Not the poster.

You didnt elaborate. I dont appreciate people blowing off the subject, as if scripture says it all, nothing to learn here. No i dont appreciate that or you trying to make me look like im not bearing fruit. What the heck bro? Dont comment if you dont have anything meaningful to add. Ok?

[Whyme]

Maybe I am out of line, maybe I'm misunderstanding people. If so I'm sorry. Story of my life.