Battle of the mind, overcoming the flesh

[BeyondET]

6 hours ago, Josheb said:

Read my post. Go back to my original post and read it for what it actually states. I was misquoted more than once. Go back and (re-)read my original post for what it states, and the say "Amen," because it is in fact true and correct when not misquoted and misrepresented. There is no argument. Those who imagine there is an argument there are imagining it. 

I Apologize for my words Josheb, what i should of said is this, I think when we teach others of scripture and they learn something the praise should be towards God and not our selves per say if that makes sense. that is why i commented on the praise Josheb thing. I am still learning to bite my tongue on things haha.. 

I Apologize Josheb

[Arrabon]

29 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

Soon we are going to run in some disagreement or as some say the storm has began to brew already, but that should not stop us for trying to clarify the issues at hand. 

@Your closest friendnt

I'm a very loving kind person and don't see this happening with you or anyone here. I love to discuss God's word, but never to "WRANGLE" over His word …(2 Tim. 2:14)""warn them before God that they are to avoid wranglings over words, which does no good but only ruins those who are listening."

Your response got a little "wordy" and lengthy for me, so maybe you could clarify your statement for me in a shorter post. 

It would really help me understand so I can respond to you in complete understanding. 

[Your closest friendnt]

7 hours ago, Arrabon said:

@Your closest friendnt

John 5:30, "I can of mine own self do nothing: "AS I HEAR", I judge: and my judgment is just; because "I SEEK NOT MY OWN WILL", but "THE WILL OF MY FATHER" which hath sent me."

As I get older, and after studying many decades, more and more I read scripture as being authored by God through the writers and through Jesus, as the verse above clearly states, and other verses do also.

Yes Jesus did say that in Matthew 7:13 and Luke 13:23-24, but the bible is Gods story to the entire human race, and God is Jesus in human form, as we all know, and so I tend to think and speak in broader terms now than I used to, and it's my way of giving people who read this the credit for already knowing God is Jesus.

I hope that answers your question my friend. GOD BLESS YOU .

My name is ARRABON

In the second paragraph the statement

*"I read scriptures as been author by God through the writers and through Jesus ".*

Scripture as been author by God through a) the writers and b) through Jesus, 

As the VERSE above clearly states. In John 5:30.

No John 5:30 it does not state that. 

This is what I am desperately trying to point out to you is that the verse above in John 5:30 it does not state that. 

It another issue about what it states and what it does not state and that too.

But without looking into that we can with a simple reading say that it does not say anything that "God is the author of scriptures through the writters and through Jesus.  

And if you say that God is the Author of scripture through Jesus as through the writers then you are saying that Jesus is not God. Which it is what Jesus Christ said. 

 

[Arrabon]

Well @Your closest friendnt.

I do believe we have hit an impass of what we understand and believe.

There are many verses that must be linked together to not only form a thought, but form an understanding of who God is and His plans.

You can't just take one verse out of the context of the bible and say that's what it means, when there are so many other verses that validate what the entire bible is about and try to change that by your understanding of one verse, which may or may not be correct.

I believe we are just on different places on the road to our eternal glory and cannot communicate on the same level.

Your a good loving brother, and maybe someday on another topic we may be able to connect better.

God bless you as you search for God's truth as we all are doing.

My name is Arrabon

[Whyme]

1 minute ago, Arrabon said:

Well @Your closest friendnt.

I do believe we have hit an impass of what we understand and believe.

There are many verses that must be linked together to not only form a thought, but form an understanding of who God is and His plans.

You can't just take one verse out of the context of the bible and say that's what it means, when there are so many other verses that validate what the entire bible is about and try to change that by your understanding of one verse, which may or may not be correct.

I believe we are just on different places on the road to our eternal glory and cannot communicate on the same level.

Your a good loving brother, and maybe someday on another topic we may be able to connect better.

God bless you as you search for God's truth as we all are doing.

My name is Arrabon

Who took a verse out of context?

[Arrabon]

 @Your closest friendnt.

What you have to understand is context doesn't just relate to the subject matter around it, but to the entire rest of the bible around it, as God has given it meaning and a place to fit in scripture that helps complete his whole message to the world.

You have to have abroad view of Gods entire message, while studying a topic, and get to see the GENIUS of not only His plan, but the way He gave it to us - It's just BEAUTIFUL, and once you can do this you will be amazed as I was at the true message he has always had for us.

Definetly not the one man has been trying to give us for 2000 years since Paul's time, and those who tried to dishonor Paul and the true message he brought, especially in the 2 books of Corinthians.

Love in Christ and many blessings

Arrabon

Edited April 28, 2021 by Arrabon

[Whyme]

4 minutes ago, Arrabon said:

 @Your closest friendnt.

What you have to understand is context doesn't just relate to the subject matter around it, but to the entire rest of the bible around it, as God has given it meaning and a place to fit in scripture that helps complete his whole message to the world.

You have to have abroad view of Gods entire message, while studying a topic, and get to see the GENIUS of not only His plan, but the way He gave it to us - It's just BEAUTIFUL, and once you can do this you will be amazed as I was at the true message he has always had for us.

Definetly not the one man has been trying to give us for 2000 years since Paul's time, and those who tried to dishonor Paul and the true message he brought, especially in the 2 books of Corinthians. 

Straying off topic friend.

[Arrabon]

29 minutes ago, Whyme said:

Who took a verse out of context?

 

1 minute ago, Whyme said:

Straying off topic friend.

@Whyme

I was simply answering you response above about context.

God bless and be at peace.

Arrabon

 

[Whyme]

1 minute ago, Arrabon said:

 

@Whyme

I was simply answering you response above about context.

God bless and be at peace.

Arrabon

 

Yes we have heard a lot about context. But what about thinking Godly thoughts? Will it end in a fleshy failure?

[Arrabon]

14 minutes ago, Whyme said:

Yes we have heard a lot about context. But what about thinking Godly thoughts? Will it end in a fleshy failure?

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