Battle of the mind, overcoming the flesh

[Whyme]

Its not just how i choose to think that helps me overcome anxiety, its also prayer and waiting on God, as the scripture teaches us. 
 

[Whyme]

18 minutes ago, Josheb said:

Try applying the whole passage because you're doing only a sixth of what God directed. 

Philippians 4:4-9
"Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, rejoice!  Let your gentle spirit be known to all men. The Lord is near.  Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God.  And the peace of God, which surpasses all comprehension, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.  

1. Rejoice in the Lord.
2. Let your gentle spirit be known.
3. Pray to God supplicantly with thanksgiving.
4. Make known your requests.
5. Think on things honorable, right, pure, lovely, of good repute, excellent, and worthy of praise. 
6. Dwell on them. 

Try all five simultaneously and develop them into a way of life and not just an episodic occurrence and see if that doesn't change things for the better. Or don't. I understand you do not need teachers to teach you how to read God's book. 

And don't forget: the fleshly mind can do these things but that will not have the same effect when done with the mind of the Spirit.  

 

 

I did mention this.

On 4/28/2021 at 8:28 PM, Whyme said:

Thinking about this scripture, it says to rejoice in the Lord always. And it teaches us to think about good things of the Spirit. We should love one another. Im thinking about that. Amen? 

 

Edited May 3, 2021 by Whyme

[Whyme]

1 hour ago, Josheb said:

And don't forget: the fleshly mind can do these things but that will not have the same effect when done with the mind of the Spirit.  

The same effect? Please elaborate, thank you.

[Whyme]

7 hours ago, Josheb said:

Try all five simultaneously and develop them into a way of life and not just an episodic occurrence and see if that doesn't change things for the better. Or don't. I understand you do not need teachers to teach you how to read God's book. 

 

Rejoice in the Lord.

amen

 

Let your gentle spirit be known. 

I may be rough around the edges but i try to be gentle.

 

Pray to God supplicantly with thanksgiving.

Make known your requests.

Amen

 

Think on things honorable, right, pure, lovely, of good repute, excellent, and worthy of praise. 

Dwell on them.

Amen, what i been saying. 

 

 

Edited May 4, 2021 by Whyme

[Guest clancy]

5 hours ago, Whyme said:

The same effect? Please elaborate, thank you.

It won’t have the same affect Whyme as a non believer, I remember sitting in the bath once as a non believer, saying ,why don’t you help me with this problem if there is a God,  completely and utterly alienated from God, absolutely nothing, completely dead my Spirit.

 

I had to wait for a few years, then my miracle happened,I was saved by God, the Holy Spirit indwells me, oh to be in the presence of God and his child, absolute bliss, words can’t express my appreciation and joy that I have.

Biggest Honour and Privilege of my life, to be saved by God and have the Holy Spirit indwells me...30 yrs and counting...

[Whyme]

3 minutes ago, clancy said:

It won’t have the same affect Whyme as a non believer, I remember sitting in the bath once as a non believer, saying ,why don’t you help me with this problem if there is a God,  completely and utterly alienated from God, absolutely nothing, completely dead my Spirit.

 

I had to wait for a few years, then my miracle happened,I was saved by God, the Holy Spirit indwells me, oh to be in the presence of God and his child, absolute bliss, words can’t express my appreciation and joy that I have.

Biggest Honour and Privilege of my life, to be saved by God and have the Holy Spirit indwells me...30 yrs and counting...

Thank you. 

[Whyme]

I use to read that scripture (Philippians 4) and i would agree but never actually practiced it faithfully. Now i cant see myself doing anything less. Is there not a battle raging within each of us? There is in me. I remember the old man well and dont want to be him anymore.

 

1 Timothy 6:6 But godliness with contentment is great gain. 7 For we brought nothing into the world, and we can take nothing out of it. 8 But if we have food and clothing, we will be content with that. 9 Those who want to get rich fall into temptation and a trap and into many foolish and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction. 10 For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.

11 But you, man of God, flee from all this, and pursue righteousness, godliness, faith, love, endurance and gentleness. 12 Fight the good fight of the faith. Take hold of the eternal life to which you were called when you made your good confession in the presence of many witnesses.
 

[Whyme]

25 minutes ago, Josheb said:

This is frustrating. 

I've already covered the answer to that question several times both here in this thread and in many another. Not sure why it hasn't been read or understood.

Let's try this:

 

Is it possible for an atheist to be patient?
Is it possible for an atheist to be kind? 

 

Please just answer the questions asked.

Thank you, that was not so hard bro. Let me expand the question so we have no misunderstandings. Is it possible for an atheist to to be as patient as God is? Or as kind? No. Can an atheist love like God does? Are we not to strive for that kind of love, and let me remind you love fulfills the law but the fleshy mind  cannot understand it because its spiritually discerned and the fleshy mind cannot submit to God law of love. They dont think about that kind of love. Look at 1 Co 13, can an Atheist have that kind of love?

Edited May 4, 2021 by Whyme

[Whyme]

Corinthians 13

4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

[Whyme]

1 minute ago, Josheb said:

Whyme, I asked the question I wanted answered and I asked that question for reasons that I hoped would be mutually edifying. It is rude and disrespectful to change my words. 

 

So in an act of good faith I am going to ask the questions again hoping I don't read more of the same avoidance and disrespect. 

 

Is it possible for an atheist to be patient?
Is it possible for an atheist to be kind?  

 

Please just answer the questions asked.

 

Im not disrespecting you. You are disrespecting me. No need to get personal. Where do you get those words from? I need context. Is it from scripture? There are two kinds of love, correct? There is mans fleshy love and God's mature love. We are debating whether the fleshy mind can love, or rather think about Godly love. So i ask, can an atheist be as loving (as patient, love is patient) as God? You are basically claiming Atheists can love like God loves. You will prolly say im mistaking your words but thats what it sounds like.