How does a "soul" (Gen. 2-7) relate to "His image" (Gen. 1:26 -27)?

[DeighAnn]

2 minutes ago, BeyondET said:

like what did man come from animals? but i do think there was three types of man the last being mankind from Seth

I got the good bloodline through Seth, I got the bad man line through Cain, who is the third?  OR i am way off base.  

[BeyondET]

2 minutes ago, DeighAnn said:

I got the good bloodline through Seth, I got the bad man line through Cain, who is the third?  OR i am way off base.  

1 cor 15:45

So also it has been written: "The first man Adam became into a living soul;" the last Adam into a life-giving spirit.

[DeighAnn]

38 minutes ago, Charlie744 said:

DeignAnn, I am going to gently suggest that you discontinue taking your mother's medication!    I have the feeling you are interpreting the Scriptures much too literal! 

Whatever is in those pills I can assure you they will not make you see the Scriptures clearer.....   2 Corinthians 5:7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight.) 

Also, I have to insist you put that firehouse down and walk away very slowly .....before you hurt someone. 

Okay, I think we are now all save in here .... I don't think anyone was injured.... 

DeighAnn, obviously there are too many question presented above and they are not all relevant to this topic ..... (I hope), so we should consider the number 1 issue you would like to discuss and we will move on down the line ..... By the way, after I read all of your thoughts / questions above I immediately started to sing Jefferson Airplane's, "White Rabbit"! This is going to be a long night I can tell - this is one of those songs that is not going to stop playing in my head until I go to sleep or die...... again, thank you DA!

Well, gotta go, now where are my pills..... Charlie

 

Hey, my mom only takes a thyroid pill (and a pain pill when she has to go somewhere).  How many old people do you know that don't take a multitude of pills?  

THANKS for the song.  But it almost takes a die to get rid of that one...

But seriously, take all them scriptures, put them all together and tell me what you SEE. 

 I think I give so much because it is so easy to explain 'em away one at a time.  But when  put together, it makes one realize just how much 'explaining'  is being done, rather than just accepting what is read.  It is wonderful and beautiful and PERFECT.  



If it is wrong, Scripture it right. I'm all ears


And yes, they are ALL relevant to this topic.  This is the reality.  


Mount of Transfiguration.  What 'name' would those watching give to those Jesus was speaking with?

Angel or man?

What name would you give to the thief on the cross once he arrived in paradise?

Angel or man?

[Charlie744]

2 minutes ago, DeighAnn said:

Hey, my mom only takes a thyroid pill (and a pain pill when she has to go somewhere).  How many old people do you know that don't take a multitude of pills?  

THANKS for the song.  But it almost takes a die to get rid of that one...

But seriously, take all them scriptures, put them all together and tell me what you SEE. 

 I think I give so much because it is so easy to explain 'em away one at a time.  But when  put together, it makes one realize just how much 'explaining'  is being done, rather than just accepting what is read.  It is wonderful and beautiful and PERFECT.  



If it is wrong, Scripture it right. I'm all ears


And yes, they are ALL relevant to this topic.  This is the reality.  


Mount of Transfiguration.  What 'name' would those watching give to those Jesus was speaking with?

Angel or man?

What name would you give to the thief on the cross once he arrived in paradise?

Angel or man?

Well, I hope I realized I was attempting to be humorous— doesn’t come across sometimes which means the more emojis the better!

 I am glad your mother does not require a million type of medicines  to enjoy life!

You have so many great thoughts and questions but there is no way they can all be addressed at one sitting.

Take one of your thoughts and questions and start a separate thread... 

But this specific topic is to see if our understandings  and interpretations of these two verses are in agreement and can reveal how God created Adam and what happened after he sinned.

What is your thoughts on the parts or makeup of Adam? 

And what, if anything happened to him after he sinned? 

Charlie

[BeyondET]

Gen 1

26Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, after Our likeness, to rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it.”

27So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.

28God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth and subdue it; rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and every creature that crawls upon the earth.”

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The Nephilim was a whole other class of upright walking beings “man”. Created not from dirt or Adam but from God and the other/others in there likeness and image. On earth before mankind and after mankind. Very highly intellectual from the get go advanced very quickly and left earth before the flood they had nothing to do the garden issue or Cain killing Abel they were not created from dirt.

they headed out and hopped to other habitation.

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Isaiah 40:22

He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth; its dwellers are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a curtain, and spreads them out like a tent to dwell in.

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thus mankind had technology in the beginning. mankind doesn’t get to building city’s and bronze/iron stuff, musical instruments in 3 generations without prior tech.

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Gen 4

17And Cain had relations with his wife, and she conceived and gave birth to Enoch. Then Cain built a city and named it after his son Enoch.

18Now to Enoch was born Irad, and Irad was the father of Mehujael, and Mehujael was the father of Methusael, and Methusael was the father of Lamech. 19And Lamech married two women, one named Adah and the other Zillah.

20Adah gave birth to Jabal; he was the father of those who dwell in tents and raise livestock. 21And his brother’s name was Jubal; he was the father of all who play the harp and flute.

22And Zillah gave birth to Tubal-cain, a forger of every implement of bronze and iron. And the sister of Tubal-cain was Naamah.

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[DeighAnn]

1 hour ago, Charlie744 said:

So what is your verdict here? Using your own words, what is your understanding of angels and man in relation to each other and God's reasons or purpose for each?

NO more fire hoses, Charlie

We were the sons of God before the earth was created (spiritual/celestial), we are the sons of God now (earthy/terrestrial), and we will be the sons of God in the new heaven and earth (spiritual/celestial/on earth)

was, is, is to come

1 Peter 1:2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.


1 Peter 1:4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,


Did you ever notice how in Peter,  FIRST he speaks to Noahs flood.  

So EITHER HE speaks to it AGAIN, or it is something else?  We can 'explain it away' or read it as given.  

So what does it say after talking about the flood of Noahs time?   I'll just paste it here for ease of read

 

2Peter 2:3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.

2Peter 2:4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

(what did the bad angels do?)

 

2 Peter 2:5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;

 

2Peter 2:10 But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities.

2Peter 2:11 Whereas angels, which are greater in power and might, bring not railing accusation against them before the Lord.

(mighty men)

2 Peter 2:12 But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;

 

2 Peter 3:1 This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance:

2Peter 3:2 That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:

2Peter 3:3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,

2Peter 3:4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

2Peter 3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:

2Peter 3:6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:

Perished apollumi: to destroy, destroy utterly
 

622 apóllymi (from 575 /apó, "away from," which intensifies ollymi, "to destroy") – properly, fully destroy, cutting off entirely (note the force of the prefix, 575 /apó).

622 /apóllymi ("violently/completely perish") implies permanent (absolute) destruction, i.e. to cancel out (remove); "to die, with the implication of ruin and destruction" (L & N, 1, 23.106); cause to be lost (utterly perish) by experiencing a miserable end.

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2Peter 3:7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

Do you know about ADAM and EVE and the garden?  Then the world did not PERISH during the flood of Noahs time, it continued on.  We can trace the blood line all the way back.  


'Foundation' a really good and necessary study.  


ok, I erased most of it and edited the rest down to the bare minimum, I HOPE you see it that way, I am really trying here.  

Thank you for letting me know, I appreciate it very much.  I might have a tinge of OCD when it comes to this.  

 

[DeighAnn]

41 minutes ago, Charlie744 said:

Well, I hope I realized I was attempting to be humorous— doesn’t come across sometimes which means the more emojis the better!

 I am glad your mother does not require a million type of medicines  to enjoy life!

You have so many great thoughts and questions but there is no way they can all be addressed at one sitting.

Take one of your thoughts and questions and start a separate thread... 

But this specific topic is to see if our understandings  and interpretations of these two verses are in agreement and can reveal how God created Adam and what happened after he sinned.

What is your thoughts on the parts or makeup of Adam? 

And what, if anything happened to him after he sinned? 

Charlie

He lost his rights to the tree of life. His flesh eyes were opened, His spiritual eyes closed.  

[BeyondET]

3 minutes ago, DeighAnn said:

He lost his rights to the tree of life. His flesh eyes were opened, His spiritual eyes closed.  

What ever Eve was doing, Adam was with her in agreement to be at the tree that’s for sure.

[BeyondET]

If Lamech was so bold to say such a statement after killing a man who only hurt him and I think it probably got back to Adam and Eve. They lost their younger son then and Lamech was making jokes about it. They probably were hurt and upset about it. in that Eve is taken the lead to go to tree. A man can not carry an infant in the womb, mothers have a deeper bound I think because of that she was especially hurt. can’t imagine the hurt a mother has like in a rock and a hard spot about one son that killed another son she gave birth too. 

Gen 4

24If Cain is avenged sevenfold, then Lamech seventy-sevenfold.”

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[BeyondET]

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Edited May 6, 2021 by BeyondET