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[David1701]

1 hour ago, Whyme said:

Lots of things are bad for the health. Some foods are bad for us but paul says they are all legal. Jesus said its not what goes in the mouth that defiles but what comes out of the mouth that defiles. 

Cigarettes are not food.  They are toxic and extremely addictive.

[Whyme]

6 minutes ago, David1701 said:

Cigarettes are not food.  They are toxic and extremely addictive.

Some food is bad for the health though.

[David1701]

Just now, Whyme said:

Some food is bad for the health though.

Excess is bad for the health, but genuine foods, taken in moderation, are not (except for things like allergies).

[Whyme]

1 hour ago, David1701 said:

Excess is bad for the health, but genuine foods, taken in moderation, are not (except for things like allergies).

Its not about making the flesh healthy, its about the spiritual man. If you look at scripture about the temple of the Spirit, its talking about fornication and other works of the flesh. Smoking is not a work of the flesh. Right? 

[David1701]

36 minutes ago, Whyme said:

Its not about making the flesh healthy, its about the spiritual man. If you look at scripture about the temple of the Spirit, its talking about fornication and other works of the flesh. Smoking is not a work of the flesh. Right? 

Of course smoking cigarettes is a work of the flesh!  I hope you're not going to claim that the Holy Spirit leads people to smoke cigarettes, are you?

[Whyme]

19 minutes ago, David1701 said:

Of course smoking cigarettes is a work of the flesh!  I hope you're not going to claim that the Holy Spirit leads people to smoke cigarettes, are you?

How is it a work of flesh? What scripture do you have to support that?

[missmuffet]

4 hours ago, johnthebaptist said:

I believe you will find the Lord doesn't want us to smoke.

If a person is pointing their finger at those who smoke then they had better not drink a cup of coffee, eat chocolate or drink a coca cola. They all have caffeine in them and that is a drug. Also any one who has a drink of alcohol is also consuming a drug. So any one who does the above and points their finger at someone who smokes is being a hypocrite. 

[johnthebaptist]

26 minutes ago, missmuffet said:

If a person is pointing their finger at those who smoke then they had better not drink a cup of coffee, eat chocolate or drink a coca cola. They all have caffeine in them and that is a drug. Also any one who has a drink of alcohol is also consuming a drug. So any one who does the above and points their finger at someone who smokes is being a hypocrite. 

The Lord led me to give up smoking and other bad habits. When I did, my life was transformed.

I don't ingest any caffeine, including chocolate, nor do I drink alcohol. The Bible does permit moderate drinking of alcohol, though.

[David1701]

59 minutes ago, Whyme said:

How is it a work of flesh? What scripture do you have to support that?

Rom. 14:23 (KJV) And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin. 

Can you, honestly, claim that you can smoke toxic, extremely addictive cigarettes that have no positive qualities at all (ask any doctor), in faith?

Do you care about the effect on others, who might be encouraged to take it up, if they see Christians smoking?

Whatever we do is either led by the Holy Spirit, or it is a work of the flesh, there is no third option.  Can you, honestly, claim that the Holy Spirit leads people to smoke cigarettes?  If not, then you must agree that it is a work of the flesh.

If someone eats magic mushrooms, is that a work of the flesh, or is it something that the Holy Spirit would lead you to do?  Perhaps he might lead you to smoke marijuana for "recreation"?  Why not take some cannabis, or heroin?  Where do you draw the line?

The answer is simple: if it causes harm, could encourage others to go astray, does no good, dishonours the Lord and is highly addictive, then what is there to think about?

P.S. My grandmother used to smoke sixty cigarettes a day.  She realised that it was making her ill and wasting a lot of money (she was not well off), so, one day, she stopped and never smoked another cigarette (admittedly, she had a very strong will).

My mother used to smoke twenty a day and, when I was eight years old, I thought I might like to smoke, because I saw her smoking, so I asked her if I could try a puff.  She wanted to refuse, but my father encouraged her to let me, in order to put me off them.  I took one puff and spent the next five minutes coughing and spluttering.  I have never wanted to smoke since.  Those things are disgusting!

Some people die, every year, from passive smoking, never mind smoking themselves.  Have you ever seen someone dying of lung cancer, or emphysema?

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[Riverwalker]

23 hours ago, mmegan said:

I know that smoking is horrible, and I quit a long time ago. However, recently I picked it back up. The Holy Spirit  has been convicting me, However, I  still have been having a few  puffs here and there. Will I die spiritually if I don't stop asap? Thank you.

No you are suffering from an addiction, Jesus said its not what goes into that defiles you but what comes out of you

You should quit and God can help. He helped me miraculously, just took the desire away, with no withdrawals