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7 hours ago, Leonardo Von said:

From Revelation 4 to Revelation 22, nothing took place until now.

Rev 12, is completely fulfilled.

Rev 12 begins with Rome and the people of Israel waiting for the birth of Jesus.

It ends with the people of Israel fleeing into the gentile nations in the great scattering of 70 AD ish to escape from Rome and Caesar.

The time that the people of Israel spend scattered in the gentile nations ended in 1967 when Jerusalem was restored to the people of Israel.

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Rev 12 Is entirely fulfilled.

We are now  in the time when the woman's time in the wilderness of the gentile nations has ended in 1967.

The time in the wilderness ended when Jerusalem was restored to the control of Israel.

The Rev 12 woman answers the question, "When will Jerusalem be restored to Israel?"

The answer is 3 1/2 times or 1260 days.

But the 3 1/2 times and 1260 days are symbolic of 70 AD - 1967, 1900 years ish.

This time n the years of men could not be known until after the prophecy was fulfilled, which it now has been.

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Applying the same timeline to the 2 witnesses also shows that the 42 months in sack cloth is the time that the gentiles trample Jerusalem until it is restored to Israel.

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As soon as you realize that the numbers are symbolic for the time from 70 AD until Jerusalem is restored in 1967, it all falls into place, in these chapters.

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The Revelation shows the past to John, the present to John in 85-96 AD ish, and the future to John, Rev 1:19.

 


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Rev 12, Now is the time that the meaning of the Revelation can be fully understood. It could not be revealed until Jerusalem was restored.

It is revealed because almost all of it is now history. We are at the end, just before the 7th trumpet, maybe only months away, maybe longer, but what is a few months compared to the thousands of years of waiting for Jesus?

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Rev 12 Shows the children of Israel while Rome was in power over them from 63 BC until 1967 when Jerusalem was restored. When the entities and events are understood correctly, it becomes clear.

The hardest part is giving up on previous "It's all future" timelines and moving to a historically based time line with things that have happened in John's past. 

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The woman faithful Israel waits for the deliverer, Jesus.

Rome invades and kills 1/3 of Israel, the stars, 63 BC.

Herod waits for Jesus to kill him, 1 AD ish.

Jesus ascends into heaven. 33 AD

The war in heaven, is between when Jesus ascends and the day of Pentecost, 33 AD.

Satan is thrown down on the day of Pentecost when the gospel kingdom came, when salvation came. (Rev 20:1-3) 33 AD

Rome chases Israel into the gentile nations. 70 AD

Rome is "bound" in the fact that they can only chase the woman so far, then the dragon sends out the waters after her, because dragon beast Roman Satan is bound (for a symbolic 1000 years) in the 1st century.

But Faithful Israel was in the wilderness of the gentile nations for 1900 ish years, not 3 1/2 years, or months, or days.

Now that time of faithful Israel in the wilderness of the gentile nations is over, since 1967. 

The Roman dragon Satan nation has lost power over the woman.

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Like I said, the hard part is letting go of an old timeline from the past that believes that the numbers in Rev 11 & 12 are 3 1/2 years and are not symbolic.

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