I have a question about faith in a situation

[Guest John3:16Canadian]

hey all. I was curiouse about something: Say I got diagnosed with cancer today. I obviously would pray that I would get better and live many more healthy years..but on the other hand death could of been what god has ordained to happen to me. So in situations like this..i would find myself thinking: well maybe this is what god has wanted and then in that way i would see myself losing faith in getting better which contradicts: "All that calleth on the name of the lord shall be saved". What if I am ordained to die, but call on the name of the lord to be saved? Kinda confusing but just curiouse lol

[ayin jade]

All who call on the name of the Lord shall be saved refers to salvation. It does not refer to illness.

If you were to get such an illness, there is nothing wrong with asking Him to heal you. Personally, I would pray for healing, but foremost I would pray for His will. Praying for that doesnt lessen your faith.

[Mikeyjay]

All who call on the name of the Lord shall be saved refers to salvation. It does not refer to illness.

If you were to get such an illness, there is nothing wrong with asking Him to heal you. Personally, I would pray for healing, but foremost I would pray for His will. Praying for that doesnt lessen your faith.

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I have to agree to what Jadey is saying here...remember sickness and disease comes from the enemy and if you believe that God is unable to heal you from such an ilness is a deception of the enemy...in this situation i would pray for God's healing power and bind the lies of the devil and (in the spirit realm) cast this lie into the pit of hell, where it belongs...remember it says in -

Matthew 18:18

[Sirsilius]

Heb 9:27 And just as it is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment....

This first death is something that will eventually come to all of us- and has nothing to do with your salvation.

Of course, if you are saved, then the permanent death- which is the second death- won't touch you.

[other one]

hey all. I was curiouse about something: Say I got diagnosed with cancer today. I obviously would pray that I would get better and live many more healthy years..but on the other hand death could of been what god has ordained to happen to me. So in situations like this..i would find myself thinking: well maybe this is what god has wanted and then in that way i would see myself losing faith in getting better which contradicts: "All that calleth on the name of the lord shall be saved". What if I am ordained to die, but call on the name of the lord to be saved? Kinda confusing but just curiouse lol

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Let me tell you about my grandmother. Later in life she developed brain cancer and took several years for her to slowly fall apart and finally die. I can't bring myself to go through the whole thing for it really hurts too much.

To make a long story short, one day we were at the rest home that grandma was in and mom had made a statement as to why God had let grandma suffer so for so long, especially at the end when so many things quit working.

One of the nurses there brightened up and told mom that it was for the others in the rest home and several people who came to visit. You see there were many people in the place that had watched grandma die, and how my family had dealt with all the hurt and anguish. Many of the older people were daily uplifted because my grandmother was always spiritually up even when basic body functions stopped working properly.

She was resposible for people rededicating their lives and some going back to church I am told.

So, I would say that whether or not someone is healed..... God is still our shepard and His true followers still will not want......

[Gerioke]

Matthew 26: 39 And he went a little farther, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as you will.

Jesus didn't want to be crucified but He wanted to do the will of the Father. Ultimately God's will will be done.

[Sirsilius]

Let me tell you about my grandmother.

Edited August 15, 2005 by Sirsilius

[apothanein kerdos]

If God took the cancer from you (in this hypothetical) then you would be healed through faith and the testimony would be used for God's glory.

If God allowed you to slip into eternity (in this hypothetical) then you would be healed in Heaven through faith and the testimony would be used for God's glory.

Death is an inevitable part of life. We shall all die, whether through being murdered, from disease, from accident, or from natural causes when we are old and frail, death will come to us all. Regardless we are called to be a testament to God's work in us, no matter in what we go. That is what is important

[Kabowd]

hey all. I was curiouse about something: Say I got diagnosed with cancer today. I obviously would pray that I would get better and live many more healthy years..but on the other hand death could of been what god has ordained to happen to me. So in situations like this..i would find myself thinking: well maybe this is what god has wanted and then in that way i would see myself losing faith in getting better which contradicts: "All that calleth on the name of the lord shall be saved". What if I am ordained to die, but call on the name of the lord to be saved? Kinda confusing but just curiouse lol

First and foremost, nothing you could ever do, say or pray will change God's will. What He desires to happen is going to happen.

"There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heaven: a time to be born and a time to die...." Ecc. 3:1-2a

"Many are the plans in a man's heart, but it is the Lord's purpose that prevails." Proverbs 19:21

"There is no wisdom, no insight, no plan that can succeed against the Lord." Proverbs 22:30

You want to know what you should pray? You pray for mercy, you pray for grace, you pray for healing...but you trust God enough to know that He will do what is best, even if what you see with your eyes doesn't look like a miracle. You pray for His will to be done and you trust that it will. You pray that if physical healing doesn't come the way you want it to, that He will supply you with the grace to endure as he did with Paul:

"But He said to me, "My grace is sufficient for you, for My power is made perfect in weakness." Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weakness, so that Christ's power may rest on me. That is why, for Christ's sake, I delight in my weakness, in insults, in hardships, in persecutions, in difficulties. For when I am weak, then I am strong." 2 Cor. 12:9-10

Paul prayed for a physical healing....but accepted the miracle of God's grace as a sufficient healing of it's own.

When my extremely godly mother was diagnosed with cancer, this wasn't a hypothetical, it was real. She prayed for a miracle, she sought God, she asked for prayers from others, she poured her heart out to the Lord and asked for a healing. BUT...she didn't stop there. She also prayed that He would have His way with her life, whether it meant through healing her or not. She had enough faith to trust He would do what was best and use her life for His glory, even if it didn't look the way her human eyes thought it should look. Something she wrote in her journal still speaks to me this day:

"Whether I live or die, I am the Lord's. If I live, I live for You. If I die, I see You face to face. I can't lose either way."

She got her healing by the way...she met the Healer face to face.

[Guest John3:16Canadian]

Ok, thanks for all of your help. I was confused about that issue, but now I surely know the answer. God bless.