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Whos is the Ancient of Days? Will He return with the Son of man, (Jesus)?

The Bible teaches a first and second coming of God the Father to the Earth? In Dan.
7:18-22 we have the fact that the Ancient of Days was coming to destroy the
Antichrist. The Ancient of Days and the Son of man are two different persons,
as proven in Dan. 7:9-14. If the Ancient of Days is not the Son of man, then He
must be the Father. If He is the Father, then the Father is coming to the Earth
when Christ comes. This is also proven in Zech. 14:5; Titus 2:11-13. We call
this the first coming of the Father to the Earth to fulfill a mission. The
Second Coming of the Father is at the end of the Millennium when the New
Jerusalem, the capital city of God, comes from Heaven to the Earth to be among
men forever, as stated in Rev. 21:1-21. This is the second time the Father is
pictured in Scripture as coming to the Earth to fulfill a mission. This time He
will be forever among men; and this planet, Earth, will be the site of His
capital forever.


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My two cents on the Subject.

God the Father has never been to planet earth.   Yahweh has been the in person representative of the Godhead from the beginning.

Moses, Aaron and 72 other people saw the God of Israel (Yahweh) and yet Jesus says no one has seen the Father except he who has come from him (meaning himself)   So I can't agree that the Father was here and by the time it's over here, here will not exist as it does now.

New Jerusalem is about 1,400 miles high and that would not be possible under our current physical laws.

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18 hours ago, other one said:

My two cents on the Subject.

God the Father has never been to planet earth.   Yahweh has been the in person representative of the Godhead from the beginning.

Moses, Aaron and 72 other people saw the God of Israel (Yahweh) and yet Jesus says no one has seen the Father except he who has come from him (meaning himself)   So I can't agree that the Father was here and by the time it's over here, here will not exist as it does now.

New Jerusalem is about 1,400 miles high and that would not be possible under our current physical laws.

John 6:46; Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, He hath seen the Father. 

Greek, horao, meaning here to comprehend fully or understand with the mind; to see truth fully. It is used in this sense in many places (John 8:38; 14:9; 15:24; 1 John 3:6). 

Greek, horato, like our English seen, means to see with the eyes and also see with the mind. That it means here to comprehend fully or understand is clear from the fact that many men have seen God with the eyes (Gen. 18:2, 33; 32:24-30; Ex. 24:10; 33:11; Josh. 5:13; Isa. 6; Ez. 1:26-28; Dan. 7:9-14; 10:5-6; Acts 7:56-59; Rev. 4:2-5; 5:1-7).


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53 minutes ago, HAZARD said:

John 6:46; Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, He hath seen the Father.

John 6:46-47
 46 not that anyone has seen the Father except he who is from God; he has seen the Father. 
ESV
The translation using the preposition "of" seems to be kind of off when one looks at the Greek word in Strong's and my dictionaries and Lexicons..,    The word Horato can be used for both mentally or physically, and it makes more sense to me to look at it physically.   I still say that we abuse that word God/god and what it means to most today is not what it meant to those who wrote the Bible and to those that they wrote it for.   


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I don't see how this could be mixed up
John 14:1-4

14 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.

2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

4 And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.
KJV
clearly it is Jesus who is returning....

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Dan 7: 13, I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the SON OF MAN came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the ANCIENT OF DAYS,  AND THEY BROUGHT HIM NEAR BEFORE HIM. 

Two beings,

1. Son of man, Christ.

2. The Ancient of Days, The Father.


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Jesus existed in the beginning with the Father.   Everything came from the Father Trough Yahweh, which was/is Jesus.  He existed in the form of God prior to setting that aside and becoming a man.  Jesus was the "God" of Israel (I AM) that Moses interfaced with.  He sat that aside and became human, and after his resurrections he asked and received the glory he had had from the beginning.  at the present time he is on equal footing with the Father, but after he has made his enemies his foot stool, he well then be subject to the Father.   I am assuming he will do so himself as it should be.


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On 6/10/2021 at 11:06 PM, other one said:


God the Father has never been to planet earth.   

New Jerusalem is about 1,400 miles high and that would not be possible under our current physical laws.

John 14:23 Jesus replied, “Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them. 


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18 hours ago, Whyme said:

John 14:23 Jesus replied, “Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them. 

Through the Holy Spirit. 


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1 hour ago, other one said:

Through the Holy Spirit. 

2 Corinthians 3:17 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.

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