The NKJV

[yomotalking]

If God Himself told me that I SHOULD have an AV ONLY attitude......I'd obey, of course...

But He hasn't, has he?

[Guest brandplucked]

It appears that you believe man has the power to suppress the word of God. I believe that if God has something to say to an individual, He will see to it that the Holy Spirit comes through, regardless of the translation.

Hi Gerioke, man cannot suppress the true words of God and that is why there are so many King James Bible believers all over the world. However, man does have the power to pervert the words of God and pass them off as "reliable versions", none of which are believed to be the inerrant words of God, even by those who promote them.

"for ye have perverted the words of the living God, of the LORD of hosts our God." Jeremiah 23:26

Let me ask you a rather simple theological question, if you don't mind. Who is in control of the world, God or Satan? Is God the Ruler of this world, or is Satan? Is the whole world under the control of the Evil One, or Almighty God?

If you know The Holy Bible and believe it, then this question should not be too hard for you to answer.

I am a Bible believer in the sense that I really believe God has kept His promises to preserve His inerrant words in a Book here on this earth. I firmly believe that Book to be the King James Holy Bible. Those who embrace or promote multiple-choice bible versions that differ from each other in their underlying Hebrew and Greek texts by literally anywhere from 3000 to 5000 words, and that have totally different meanings in hundreds of verses, are not Bible believers. They are "partial Bible believers", or "Biblical Relativists" There is no Absolute Final Written Standard to which they submit. They like that part of that bible version, and this part of this other bible version, but they don't really believe any of them are 100% right and true all the time. If there is a conflict between two different texts or meanings, then they decide for themselves which one they will believe and which one they will reject. This makes they themselves the final authority. Big problem is, no two of them will totally agree with everybody else on which parts they think are true and which parts are less than true or "spurious additions".

Now, admittedly, even if everyone were a King James Bible believer, this would not in itself assure that everybody would see every doctrine in the same way, (we wouldn't) but we would at least have the same Standard by which all things are judged. The Bible is a spiritual book and none of us has all light and understanding. We all still see through a glass darkly, but we do have the same standard of absolute truth- the inerrant, inspired and 100% always true King James Holy Bible. We do not have the very serious problem of trying to decide if God inspired a particular verse or not (and there are many, not just 5 or 6 of them).

The proof that all modern bible versions are false bibles is the fact that they all contain false doctrines to one degree or another. The tree is known by its fruit.

So, this is in part why I ask you the question I did. Who is in control of this world, God or Satan?

Could you please answer this in a few words, if possible? Or, if you like, you can write a whole article about it. I don't mind reading something of length if it is interesting and has to do with God's pure words.

God bless,

Will K

[Guest brandplucked]

If God Himself told me that I SHOULD have an AV ONLY attitude......I'd obey, of course...

But He hasn't, has he?

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Hi Yomo, No, apparently God has not yet shown you the truth of where His inerrant words are found today, but there is still hope. I haven't given up on you yet:-)

By the way, just to lighten things up a bit, I have two jokes about the Bible version issue. You may not like the first one, but I think it is kinda funny, and the second one is all too familiar. No malice intended here, just some good humor.

Will

Bible Version Joke

There were three modern version proponents (MVPs) who were always arguing with a King James Bible believer (KJBb), but the KJBb could never convince the MVPs; it was always three against one. One day they were all walking together along a country road, and as usual, the topic turned to the Bible version issue.

The KJBb was getting pretty frustrated, because no matter what arguments and examples he brought up, it was still three against one, and he just couldn't seem to win any of them over to his side.

So he silently prayed and asked God to give them all a sign, so they could see that he was right. Suddenly, a dark cloud appeared, the wind blew and lightning flashed. The KJBb said: "Did you see that! See, God is telling you all that the KJB is the true word of God."

"No", the MVPs said, "that's just a little storm, nothing unusual about that." It was still three against one. So the KJBb silently asked God to give a bigger sign. A few minutes later, again the dark clouds, the wind, and this time the lightning flashed and hit a nearby tree which exploded and fell over.

"See" said the KJB believer, "God is giving us a sign that the KJB is right, and you are wrong." "No, that's just another storm, nothing more" answered the MVPs. It remained three against one.

The KJB believer was about to ask God to show a really, really big sign when suddenly there was a booming voice from heaven which said: "The King James Bible is really My true words."

The KJBb was very thankful for this clear testimony from heaven. So he turned to the MVPs and asked: "So what do you think now?". "Well", said one of the MVPs, "now it's three against two."

Jack and Jill

Modern Exegesis of Jack and Jill

(From Atscft. Fur Alg. Bibifshng.)

Verse 1: "Jack and Jill went up the hill, to fetch a pail of

water."

The word "and" presents some difficulties, which are

not apparent to the casual reader. There is considerable

doubt in the minds of most scholars as to whether Jack was

accompanied by Jill, in the sense that the phrase is intended

to record an actual historical event.

In the setting out upon this expedition, which was

apparently undertaken for a specific purpose, or, at least,

with some definite object in mind, it seems likely that Jack

was stimulated to undertake this mission by a basic need for

water. Since most functions in the home involving water, such

as cooking, washing clothes, scrubbing floors, etc., are

normally undertaken by the distaff side, it is widely held that

the force of the "and" in this context probably means that

Jack set out with a strong picture image of Jill in his mind,

and several existentialist scholars also insist that her parting

words were undoubtedly ringing in his ears.

Grosskopf, in his monumental essay entitled,

JackmitJilldamortarung," takes a contrary view. He states

the passage considerably earlier than is generally believed

(somewhere between 404 B.C. and the 19th amendment.) On

this basis he maintains that the hewing of wood and the

drawing of water were exclusively carried on by women

during this period, and that the words, "Jack and" are a gloss

by some later copyist and did not appear in the original

manuscript.

"Went up the hill" is obviously allegorical. The

ancients, although probably ignorant of Otis' First Law of

Evaluation ("What goes up must come down."), were well

aware of the transfer of water by artificial means normally

involves transportation from an inferior to a superior

position. (E.g. The Old Oaken Bucket, Down by the Old Mill

Stream, etc.). Professor Gard de I'Eau, the hydrographer and

mystic, suggests that this ana basis symbolizes man's struggle

to rise nearer to ultimate unity with the cosmic. The water, he

continues, has precisely the same symbolism as the crossing of

the Red Sea, the Jordan, Lindburgh's trip across the Atlantic,

and the landing on Omaha Beach in World War II with

which everyone is familiar.

"Fetch" in the original was probably "carry." This

transportation of meanings ( ) indicates that editorial

alteration of the text during the Irrational Period. As H.O.

Cuspocus, Professor of Tautology at the university of

Balogna, states "La Donna a mobile, qual piuma la Viants."

In other words, "Iffa da water she's atta da bottom of da hill,

she wanna da water atta da top." This, we submit, is a

conclusive argument.

Great care must be exercised in the interpretation of

the word "pail." Some authorities on Celtic history maintain

that there is an allusion here to the twelfth century "pale."

This is borne out by the disastrous ending of the periscope

("Jack fell down and broke his crown . . ." et seq.) "Beyond

the Pale -- chaos" writes Sean O'Gobragh in the only part of

his commentary, which has thus far been translated from

Gaelic.

(N.B. - Of course, it is to be remembered that the

infallibility claimed for this passage does not apply to the text,

but to the truth contained therein.) Now, for verse 2 . . .

[yomotalking]

Thankyou.

I'll wait for that big Voice.

But until that Vioce, big or small comes ........(from God, not man) then my NJKV stays close to me.

[Trust & Obey]

Oh, brother. Now we're appealing to cute little anecdotes.

[Gerioke]

God is obviously in control of the world by the fact that it hasn't been destroyed. God did give satan some license to cause destruction. My point is that if God wants to speak to a believer , He can do it through any translation He chooses.

By your way of thinking, there would be a large group of people who think they are christians but have never read the Word.

So I will give you a rasberry on this one.

[pretzelperson]

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Do we have a possible troll?

[Gerioke]

If you say something really good here Brandplucked may reference you in one of his academic articles.  If you read his articles you will see that he references people like "so and so from Discussion Board".

Your comments may end up as quotes in articles. 

Do we have a possible troll?

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You mean he can make us famous?

Excuse me , I have to put on something more media friendly.

[RGR]

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[mrs]

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