Is God a liar, or is the creation account true?

[Sparks]

1 minute ago, one.opinion said:

Fair enough, maybe later.

So far, you have made my case about ignoring the conflicts between scripture, and evolution. 

[dad2]

1 hour ago, one.opinion said:

Fair enough, maybe later.

OK. Do you think the apostles thought that there was not an actual creation week, or that Eve was not actually taken from the man, or that man is a descendant of animals and shares kinship with flatworms, or that most of the heavens was actually here and in hiding when the bible says God created the stars and sun? 

[David1701]

2 hours ago, one.opinion said:

No. There is a difference between believing the message of the Bible (I do) and believing that a literal interpretation of the creation of Adam/Eve is most appropriate (I’m not sure on this point). It is important to my theology to acknowledge God as Creator. It is not important to my theology that He create in a specific time period.

Your theology?  Is that like His and Hers towels?

Believing narrative as narrative is not rocket science.  Any reason to doubt it, as written, comes from outside the Bible.

[one.opinion]

34 minutes ago, David1701 said:

Your theology?  Is that like His and Hers towels?

Yes, we all have our own theology. Yours is apparently “believe like me, or I will treat you rudely.”

I’m under no compulsion to converse with you if you can’t have discourse without being dismissive and rude.

[one.opinion]

50 minutes ago, dad2 said:

OK. Do you think the apostles thought

How much of the inner workings of God’s molecular biology do you think the apostles understood?

[dad2]

4 hours ago, one.opinion said:

How much of the inner workings of God’s molecular biology do you think the apostles understood?

 

Since they raised the dead and healed the incurably ill, a lot more than modern medical science, of course. When we understand God and His love and power, we understand more than our teachers.

[one.opinion]

7 hours ago, dad2 said:

Since they raised the dead and healed the incurably ill, a lot more than modern medical science, of course.

Wow, are you claiming the apostles healed out if their own knowledge? That is some heresy I wasn’t expecting to see.

[David1701]

12 hours ago, one.opinion said:

Yes, we all have our own theology. Yours is apparently “believe like me, or I will treat you rudely.”

I’m under no compulsion to converse with you if you can’t have discourse without being dismissive and rude.

I was merely making the point, with a little light humour, that we should try to be objective.  I never say things like "my theology", because that exhibits a wrong approach to Scripture, whatever the end-result of my study might be.

I will occasionally say that something is my opinion, but only when I'm unsure of the objective truth; and I will certainly not take a stand on my opinion.

I am absolutely certain that God created the heavens and the earth, in six literal days (each numbered, with a morning and an evening), because that is what his word says.  That is not "my theology"; it is what the word of God states, objectively.  It is written in narrative form, with plain statements of fact, so it must not be taken poetically or allegorically - that is also objective and it is how the NT authors treat Gen. 1.

Objectivity is just as important in Bible study as it is in scientific study.

[one.opinion]

8 minutes ago, David1701 said:

I was merely making the point, with a little light humour, that we should try to be objective.  I never say things like "my theology"

I should have said “my understanding of theology.” Consider me corrected.

[dad2]

4 hours ago, one.opinion said:

Wow, are you claiming the apostles healed out if their own knowledge? That is some heresy I wasn’t expecting to see.

Never said that, what I thought I explained was that they knew God. That means they knew more than the physicians and soothsayers etc. That means they knew more than the godless baby killing, child nature offending medical system of modern days as well, of course. The modern medical system does not know God. My post to you also clearly stated that "When we understand God and His love and power, we understand more than our teachers. " This means that by having enough understanding to trust in God, and His power and knowledge, the result is a lot more understanding than modern science. The understanding is in looking to God, not in man's/our own wisdom we may have or think we have. The apostles raised the dead and healed people by God's power, not by some medicines they invented. It was not their own wisdom that raised the dead. It was not some medicine they invented by their own understanding. It was their understanding that God was real, and would answer prayer that was a greater understanding than the medical system has.