Don't Be Afraid to Speak the Truth...

[Arrabon]

@Alive

I believe what we're doing here is sharing differences of opinions, and I love that.

This forum isn't my life and each day I walk away with a "peace beyond all comprehension"Phil.4, to live the bigger part of my life.

I never have any bad feelings towards anyone about their opinions here, because at the end of the day, I take none of this with me.

We will all stand before God one day and give an account for every word spoken, and I am at peace with that, because I love everyone here, especially @Alive

[Alive]

3 minutes ago, Arrabon said:

@Alive

I believe what we're doing here is sharing differences of opinions, and I love that.

This forum isn't my life and each day I walk away with a "peace beyond all comprehension"Phil.4, to live the bigger part of my life.

I never have any bad feelings towards anyone about their opinions here, because at the end of the day, I take none of this with me.

We will all stand before God one day and give an account for every word spoken, and I am at peace with that, because I love everyone here, especially @Alive

Thank you for your response.

I leave this with a question and the one that has been in mind throughout.

Are we as sons of God and members of His Kingdom to be militantly involved in the affairs of the unregenerate?

[Arrabon]

9 minutes ago, Alive said:

Are we as sons of God and members of His Kingdom to be militantly involved in the affairs of the unregenerate?

Being "Militant", as most understand that to mean in context, and being loving, are diametrically opposed.

The 2 verses I quoted are commands to be there for those needing help that have no voice for themselves, in a peaceful manner.

For some reason you continue to throw in the "Militant mindset of Christians" which there should be none, but that doesn't mean we can't individually speak out, or do so in groups to honor Gods word as directive commands, to stand up for those in need and are being taken advantage of, and doing so in a peaceful manner.

With much love and God bless in our Lord Jesus Christ.

Arrabon

[Alive]

1 minute ago, Arrabon said:

Being "Militant", as most understand that to mean in context, and being loving, are diametrically opposed.

The 2 verses I quoted are commands to be there for those needing help that have no voice for themselves, in a peaceful manner.

For some reason you continue to throw in the "Militant mindset of Christians" which there should be none, but that doesn't mean we can't individually speak out, or do so in groups to honor Gods word as directive commands, to stand up for those in need and are being taken advantage of, and doing so in a peaceful manner.

With much love and God bless in our Lord Jesus Christ.

Arrabon

I expressed what was in my mind and asked a question. I think its a good question and one that may bear some fruit when considered...Lord willing.

[David1701]

36 minutes ago, Tammy Roesch said:

I am curious why I cannot LIKE this post of yours, David?  there are no icons there...it was excellent~

Your "like" for my post worked.  Thank you.

[Arrabon]

@Alive my brother.

To me, the greatest thing about my being a Christian is the Love for all mankind I'm allowed to bring with me wherever I go, including here.

Thank you for allowing us to be here and express our views as we see them from the Lord, and His word.

Knowledge and opinions are a passing thing, with no one knowing all the truth, but Love is for eternity and God says greater than our faith (Differing opinions).

1 Corinthians 13:13, " And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love."

I hope you love me in a Godly way, as much as I love you in Christ!!

John 13:35, "By this everyone will know that you are My disciples, if you love one another.”

May your Godly love be your guide and foundation in all things, and all people in your life.

Arrabon

Edited August 1, 2021 by Arrabon

[David1701]

22 minutes ago, Alive said:

Thank you for your response.

I leave this with a question and the one that has been in mind throughout.

Are we as sons of God and members of His Kingdom to be militantly involved in the affairs of the unregenerate?

That question could take a book to answer!

What is meant by "militantly" (certainly we should not employ violence)?

What is meant by "the affairs of the unregenerate"?  There is little that the unregenerate do that does not have something to do with God's people as well.  No man is an island.

I have written to my M.P. (Member of Parliament), in the past, about some anti-Christian legislation that was being considered, including some Bible quotes.  I have also sent an E-mail about legislation undermining Christian marriage (as encouraged by the Christian Institute).  I have signed a petition, organised by Evangelical Christians, about our Queen breaking her coronation vows, by supporting and participating in, ecumenical meetings with false religions.

I would fully support American Christians standing outside abortion clinics, praying and witnessing to people (if they save even one life, it is worth it).  This kind of thing is a bit different in the UK, since NHS hospitals routinely do abortions.

[Alive]

This forum technically belongs to George and is God's tool to use.

I am only a privileged individual who gets to take part.

[Sower]

Don't know how it is with everyone here concerning their involvement in secular, or governments that make laws.
God has blessed America beyond any other country, I believe due to our founding fathers willing to give their life and fight for freedom and liberty, and imploring the hand of God throughout the whole process. There was only about 30% of the country that were true patriots, who gave it all. All the rest were sunshine patriots, straddling the fence, not wanting to fight, waiting to see who won, King George, or the American freedom fighters, then join up with the winners.
No other nation has done as much as this country to help others. NONE.
What about the world wars. Should we have stayed out of those. If we had, you would be speaking German or Japanese today.     
                "For everything there is a season, and a time for every purpose under heaven:..........
                a time to keep silence, and a time to speak; a time to love, and a time to hate;
                                   a time for war, and a time for peace"
I would imagine there are those here who have lost friends or relatives who defended this country we all now enjoy.
My wife and I as baby Christians forty plus yrs ago, and having the new responsibilities of parenting our children, discovered what (evil) was going on in the classrooms of our kids in government run public schools, and we removed them and taught them at home. Mid eighties.
That was very scary for us, because it was "against the law." There were other moms and dads who were jailed at the time, and a Christian school principal, because they "broke the law."  We paid $200.00 a year attorney fees for retainer protection against  government bureaucrats telling us parents our kids are truant, we will take them. But our new found convictions of being good stewards of our (and God's) children was taken seriously. We became a one income family, and were pleased to witness God supply all our needs. Our leanest and meanest years, and the most blessed in growing our spiritual legs. WE also joined grass roots groups the get the "informed"vote out.
Fellow Christians told us we were doing wrong. Stay out of man's politics. We were only exaggerating, there was nothing wrong with Government public  schools. Right.
What was so amazing, and discouraging, was having little or no response from fellow Christians to get involved. Nobody wanted to have mom stay at home and heap teach, then have to  change their two income upscale lifestyle to one , nor sign petitions or confront public officials with the outlandish idea of our country is for "WE the PEOPLE"
Our family/church has participated in many annual pro life walks, clinic watch talking sharing with pregnant teens.
I do not understand why some people think it is wrong to try to protect, with violence if necessary, the lives of those who cannot protect them selves. What parent wouldn't for their own? 
People have a right to vote. Or not. Protest, or not.  Try to find some old unrevised American history books and read about what our God fearing Jesus loving founders did, with their shed blood, to benefit us with life, liberty, and the pursuit of our pleasurable happiness we have enjoyed in our lifetime.

                 The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing"
 

I believe we had a 'one of a kind' country, and so blessed by God.
But we have become apathetic stewards of God's blessings.
           And it is all coming back full circle.

From bondage to spiritual faith;
from spiritual faith to great courage;
from courage to liberty;
from liberty to abundance;
from abundance to complacency;
from complacency to apathy;
from apathy to dependence, (today)
and finally.......
from dependence back to bondage.

We reap what we sow...but God is still on the throne!
 

[Sower]

On 8/1/2021 at 5:22 PM, Alive said:

Thank you for your response.

I leave this with a question and the one that has been in mind throughout.

Are we as sons of God and members of His Kingdom to be militantly involved in the affairs of the unregenerate?

 

"A militant is someone who is engaged in a war or who acts aggressively for their cause. ... As an adjective, militant often has a negative feel — people on one side of a debate will often try to cast those on the other side as militants."

I personally believe it is a responsible Christian who "as sons of God and members of His Kingdom to be militantly involved in the affairs of the unregenerate. And our responsibility to become involved, for the furtherance of the gospel.

Should we not vote, even if there is only the unregenerate running for office. Get involved encouraging informed voters.
Or the local school board of unregenerate teachers and principal. And all so so many affairs that any Christian has to become involved in while living in a majority unregenerate world. In the world, but not of the world. My best  opportunities to share the gospel is with the unregenerate, the lost. Not the saved.
“Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick.
    I came not to call the righteous, but sinners.”

I agree about turning the cheek. And I pray for my enemies. I haven't been persecuted like in scripture.
I do understand the need to live by the words in scripture. And I do try to submit myself humbly when appropriate to unregenerate hostilities. Or Christian hostilities. But there are times (seasons) to take a stand. (see below)

Would that Jewish man swinging the whip in the temple be considered a militant?

(a little humor, Alive...)