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COVID-19 vaccine mandates have become a hotly contested issue, as coronavirus cases and hospitalizations rebound nationwide, driven by the highly contagious delta variant and unswerving vaccine hesitancy. New York City will soon be the first major U.S. city to require proof of vaccination to enter restaurants, gyms, and other indoor public spaces. Dr. Marty Makary, a professor at Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine and editor in chief of MedPage Today, argues that mandating vaccines for “every living, walking American” is, as of now, not well-supported by science. Moreover Makary, author of “The Price We Pay: What Broke American Health Care—and How to Fix It,” has concerns about the two-dose vaccine regimen for young people.

As told to Lindsay Lyon as part of Two Takes, a U.S. News series examining opinions about key issues. Responses have been edited for length and clarity.

Should all Americans be required to get the COVID-19 vaccine?

No. As a physician with a lot of experience dealing with patients who don’t follow what we ask them to do, I believe you win more bees with honey than fire. Read the rest of the Op-Ed Commentary on U.S. News and World Report

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From the same source, also an op-ed:

Why COVID-19 Vaccines Should Be Required for All Americans

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Source: Covid-21

Diseases are not static things. Pathogens change, hosts change, and environments change. In the case of COVID, all three are now different than they were in 2020. What began as one coronavirus has infected well over 100 million people and evolved into new forms that appear to transmit more readily and infect us in subtly different ways. Our immune systems have changed as well, as a result of fending off infections. And, of course, our lifestyles have changed, as have social standards, medical systems, and public-health programs.

COVID-21 is the product of all these changes in aggregate. It’s the disease as it will be experienced in the months and years to come: with new variants of the virus, new public policies and health behaviors, various degrees of immune memory, and—most important—a cavalcade of new vaccines.

Even the bad version of COVID-21 would be far different from the depths of COVID-19, though. Millions of cases of severe disease would be prevented with vaccines, but boosters would have to be given out at regular intervals. “The Moderna and Pfizer vaccines are shockingly good mimics of natural infection,” Haseltine told me. “But it’s really important to stress the fact that these vaccines are likely to be temporary protection. A year or maybe two.” That means we’d need a more enduring system of vaccine production and distribution. It will be an enormous challenge to keep the public up-to-date with annual or semiannual injections—and if uptake flags and the virus remains pervasive, even immunized people won’t be 100 percent free from risk.

As for me, I will rely on natural immunity.


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I sure hope the become required for all. The SCOTUS have ruled that vaccine mandates are okay much earlier than any of us alive so vaccine mandates have precedent


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38 minutes ago, whitetiger said:

I sure hope the become required for all. The SCOTUS have ruled that vaccine mandates are okay much earlier than any of us alive so vaccine mandates have precedent

Experimental vaccines are not allowed without informed consent, according to the Nuremberg Code.  Experimental vaccines cannot be forced.  If you are not familiar with the Nuremberg code, think of the dreadful medical atrocities of the Nazis and the world-wide laws to prevent them from happening again.


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4 hours ago, Sparks said:

Experimental vaccines cannot be forced.

The trials were properly conducted. Emergency Use Authorization was not requested until after Phase 3 trials were completed. The experimental part of testing included thousands of volunteers and was shown to be successful.

The volunteers for the testing show that the Nuremberg Code talk is hot air.

We have since had 9 months and hundreds of millions of doses of accumulated data confirming that serious adverse reactions are very rare. The conclusion of safety at the end of phase 3 trials has been overwhelmingly confirmed.

I know some people are waiting for the FDA to fully approve these, but I doubt even FDA approval will be sufficient for many that are currently hesitant.

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On 8/7/2021 at 1:00 PM, WorthyBot said:

COVID-19 vaccine mandates have become a hotly contested issue, as coronavirus cases and hospitalizations rebound nationwide, driven by the highly contagious delta variant and unswerving vaccine hesitancy. New York City will soon be the first major U.S. city to require proof of vaccination to enter restaurants, gyms, and other indoor public spaces. Dr. Marty Makary, a professor at Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine and editor in chief of MedPage Today, argues that mandating vaccines for “every living, walking American” is, as of now, not well-supported by science. Moreover Makary, author of “The Price We Pay: What Broke American Health Care—and How to Fix It,” has concerns about the two-dose vaccine regimen for young people.

As told to Lindsay Lyon as part of Two Takes, a U.S. News series examining opinions about key issues. Responses have been edited for length and clarity.

Should all Americans be required to get the COVID-19 vaccine?

No. As a physician with a lot of experience dealing with patients who don’t follow what we ask them to do, I believe you win more bees with honey than fire. Read the rest of the Op-Ed Commentary on U.S. News and World Report

View the full article

I sure hope the vaccine does not become like the MOB :(

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