"The Antichrist" Myth

[AandW_Rootbeer]

9 hours ago, The Light said:

Gog Magog is not even a consideration in this discussion as it occurs 1000 year after the 70th week of Daniel.

I do not believe that the USA represents Gog. That is something that you dreamed up.

I never said the USA = Gog, I was asking if you thought that?

 

And it is GOG, the MAN, and MAGOG was his LAND.

 

And the post I quoted of You, made the claim the USA was NORTH of Israel, so I asked since Magog is North of Israel, do you believe the USA is Gog.

 

I tried to add nothing to the discussion, but only to clarify, where you think USA fits in Prophecy coming from the North of Israel.

[The Light]

4 minutes ago, AandW_Rootbeer said:

I never said the USA = Gog, I was asking if you thought that?

I don't believe you were asking if I thought thought that. Here is what you said.....

Why do you believe the United States ultimately represents Gog? I never claimed that the United States represents Gog. This is something that you have incorrectly concluded.

4 minutes ago, AandW_Rootbeer said:

 

And it is GOG, the MAN, and MAGOG was his LAND.

I am aware of that. It's commonly referred to a Gog/Magog when discussing. 

4 minutes ago, AandW_Rootbeer said:

 

And the post I quoted of You, made the claim the USA was NORTH of Israel

Please post the quote where I made the claim that the USA was NORTH of Israel. I am unable to find it or recall it.

4 minutes ago, AandW_Rootbeer said:

 

, so I asked since Magog is North of Israel, do you believe the USA is Gog.

I'm not sure why you have entered Magog into the discussion. We are talking about the Antichrist. Gog/Magog happens 1000 years later and shouldn't even be in the conversation.

Rev 20

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

4 minutes ago, AandW_Rootbeer said:

 

I tried to add nothing to the discussion, but only to clarify, where you think USA fits in Prophecy coming from the North of Israel.

You have drawn some incorrect conclusions causing you to claim I said things I never said. I'm sure it was an honest mistake. 

[missmuffet]

13 hours ago, The Light said:

I put absolutely zero stock in these so called Biblical scholars that think that Syria  is the king of the North and Egypt is the king of the south. It's nonsense. Jeremiah 50 and 51 is an unfulfilled prophecy no matter how many Biblical scholars can't figure out that the prophecy is not only against the city of Babylon but also the land of the Chaldeans.

Jer 50

The word that the Lord spake against Babylon and against the land of the Chaldeans by Jeremiah the prophet.

The prophecy is unfulfilled as there are still people living in the land of the Chaldeans.

Jer 50

3 For out of the north there cometh up a nation against her, which shall make her land desolate, and none shall dwell therein: they shall remove, they shall depart, both man and beast.

I'm sorry they are unable to find the USA in prophecy. Maybe they should pay more attention to what is written.

I also give no stock in many of man's interpretation of Revelation. Maybe man should pay more attention to what is written. So you are saying you are right and God is wrong?

Edited August 31, 2021 by missmuffet

[AandW_Rootbeer]

1 hour ago, The Light said:

Please post the quote where I made the claim that the USA was NORTH of Israel. I am unable to find it or recall it.

I think this because I believe that the king of the North in Daniel 11 is the U.S.A.

I think that part of Daniel 11 is about end times and has not been fulfilled.  

Yes--but what makes you believe that the king of the north is the USA? How did you arrive at this conclusion?

[The Light]

4 hours ago, missmuffet said:

I also give no stock in many of man's interpretation of Revelation. Maybe man should pay more attention to what is written. So you are saying you are right and God is wrong?

I guess that depends. Are you saying that you are God?

[missmuffet]

27 minutes ago, The Light said:

I guess that depends. Are you saying that you are God?

I am not God.

[The Light]

7 hours ago, AandW_Rootbeer said:

I think this because I believe that the king of the North in Daniel 11 is the U.S.A.

I think that part of Daniel 11 is about end times and has not been fulfilled.  

Yes--but what makes you believe that the king of the north is the USA? How did you arrive at this conclusion?

My conclusion began with this verse. But this is only one of many reasons.

Dan 11

20 Then shall stand up in his estate a raiser of taxes in the glory of the kingdom: but within few days he shall be destroyed, neither in anger, nor in battle.

[The Light]

3 hours ago, missmuffet said:

I am not God.

Ok. I am only agreeing with the Word of God. The Word says that the judgment in Jeremiah 50 and 51 is against not only Babylon, but also the land of the Chaldeans. It also says that no man will dwell when the judgement is complete. Therefore since we see people living in the land of the Chaldeans we can correctly determine that the prophecy is not completely fulfilled.

[WilliamL]

On 8/29/2021 at 5:52 PM, The Light said:

On 8/29/2021 at 12:58 PM, WilliamL said:

The first sentence is not true. Men do not reside in the abyss, only fallen angels. Jude 6; 2 Peter 2:4

Hi William,

And where do those that were born of angels and women reside now?

Gen 6

2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

According to  the Book of Enoch, when these died, their spirits became disembodied spirits -- demons -- on earth.

[missmuffet]

7 minutes ago, WilliamL said:

According to  the Book of Enoch, when these died, their spirits became disembodied spirits -- demons -- on earth.

I don't even read other books that are apocryphal writings. I only stay with the Holy Bible.