Flashback: Fauci in 2019

[one.opinion]

On 9/18/2021 at 5:46 AM, Faith-Not-Fear said:

Flashback to the 80's when he advised doctors give AZT for HIV that according to some killed thousands of people. 

According to some quacks, I'm sure that is true. However, this claim is not supported by evidence. AZT is still commonly used as part of a cocktail in anti-retroviral therapy (ART) today.

There is a lot of information here, if you are interested in AZT use for HIV infections.

https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/claims-that-people-were-being-killed-by-zidovudine-azt-instead-of-aids-are-unsubstantiated/

[one.opinion]

On 9/18/2021 at 2:15 PM, Sparks said:

Now with his naturally immunity being 27 times better than the vaccine

I'm curious where that number came from.

[one.opinion]

On 9/19/2021 at 4:02 AM, other one said:

It's hard to discuss things with you without breaking the TOS so I guess I should just not comment at all.

There is rarely any benefit to attempting a rational conversation with people that assume that watching a video or two gives them more knowledge than a practicing cardiologist. Although I admit to often making the same mistake...

[WilliamL]

1 hour ago, one.opinion said:

On 9/18/2021 at 4:46 AM, Faith-Not-Fear said:

Flashback to the 80's when he advised doctors give AZT for HIV that according to some killed thousands of people. 

According to some quacks, I'm sure that is true. However, this claim is not supported by evidence. AZT is still commonly used as part of a cocktail in anti-retroviral therapy (ART) today.

There is a lot of information here, if you are interested in AZT use for HIV infections.

https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/claims-that-people-were-being-killed-by-zidovudine-azt-instead-of-aids-are-unsubstantiated/

From this article: "Due to its high toxicity, fast-tracked approval, and the development of viral resistance when zidovudine is given as a monotherapy, the drug is controversial although it is still used today in combination HIV therapy."

While this article downplays the AZT controversy, it admits that it was known to be highly toxic, especially when used as the sole treatment for AIDS, which it often was in the early days of the epidemic. It did kill and/or cause the early deaths of many AIDS patients.

Note the similarity to the current Covid treatments: fast-tracked, makes lots of money for Big Pharma, promotes viral resistance, and  given as a monotherapy. And now the growing evidence is that they are, and will be, responsible for many deaths. 

"Déjà vu all over again."

 

[Sparks]

1 hour ago, one.opinion said:

I'm curious where that number came from.

It was a study done in Israel. 

Study Shows Natural Immunity In Unvaccinated 27 Times More Effective Against COVID Delta ‘Variant’ Than Vaccine

[one.opinion]

41 minutes ago, WilliamL said:

While this article downplays the AZT controversy, it admits that it was known to be highly toxic, especially when used as the sole treatment for AIDS, which it often was in the early days of the epidemic.

AZT definitely has side-effects. However, it was the only drug available for quite some time and it is safe enough that it is still in common use today. The AZT argument really doesn’t prove any point.

[one.opinion]

18 minutes ago, Sparks said:

It was a study done in Israel. 

Study Shows Natural Immunity In Unvaccinated 27 Times More Effective Against COVID Delta ‘Variant’ Than Vaccine

Really interesting! Here is a link to the original pre-print article:

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1.full.pdf

It would be very interesting to see if a similar study in the US showed similar results.

I should point out that the "natural immunity" part means those that have already contracted COVID are more resistant to reinfection. It does not mean that that the naive immune system (no previous infection) worked so much better than vaccination.

Edited September 20, 2021 by one.opinion

[WilliamL]

On 9/20/2021 at 5:23 PM, one.opinion said:

AZT definitely has side-effects. However, it was the only drug available for quite some time and it is safe enough that it is still in common use today. The AZT argument really doesn’t prove any point.

Emphasis on the word "drug." Not, "treatment."

Like with Covid, mega-vitamins along with good diet was a therapy that was very helpful in allaying the effects of AIDS, but, again like with Covid, that approach was not only not promoted by the medical establishment, it was suppressed by it. Again, déjà vu all over again. The CDC and Big Pharma have one-track goals, and fight against anything that counters those goals.

And you, by your posts, are clearly supporting their goals.

I missed quoting one other part of the article you referred to: "...AZT was the first FDA-approved HIV drug; it received approval after it was shown to lower AIDS mortality at least in the short term." One more déjà vu, because that is exactly the case we are now witnessing with the mRNA treatments. They only lower morality in the  short term; and, like with AZT, have severe up to deadly side effects

[one.opinion]

1 minute ago, WilliamL said:

And you, by your posts, are clearly supporting their goals.

Nope. Healthy living and lifestyle are obviously VERY important. But sometimes, like in a pandemic of a newly-emerging virus where the world’s population has extremely little immunological defense, drugs are important.

Please don’t try to tell me what I do and do not support. It is bad form.

[one.opinion]

10 minutes ago, WilliamL said:

They only lower morality in the  short term; and, like with AZT, have severe up to deadly side effects

This doesn’t make any sense since I’ve already mentioned that AZT is still a critical component in ART (anti-retroviral therapy). AZT has been helping reduce mortality for about 30 years. This is a strange place to take a firm stance considering you are demonstrably wrong AND the point has minimal relevance to the OP.