R. Hartono Posted December 21, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 774 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,948 Content Per Day: 3.06 Reputation: 1,981 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted December 21, 2021 (edited) @JAG** Rev 13 is about antichrist and Arab false prophet He will be ruling the world after the rapture. He has been revealed but no power yet. Edited December 24, 2021 by R. Hartono Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diaste Posted December 23, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 14 Topic Count: 67 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6,631 Content Per Day: 1.99 Reputation: 2,368 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/17/2015 Status: Online Share Posted December 23, 2021 On 10/7/2021 at 10:33 AM, JAG** said: There were/are antichrists (little a, plural) in the world, but there is no such thing as an evil political world ruler, in our future, to be known as The Antichrist ~ try to find a Bible verse that says that. Rev 13: But the mortal wound was healed, and the whole world marveled and followed the beast. 4They worshiped the dragon who had given authority to the beast, and they worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like the beast, and who can wage war against it?” Rev 13: Then the beast was permitted to wage war against the saints and to conquer them, and it was given authority over every tribe and people and tongue and nation. 8And all who dwell on the earth will worship the beast... There is a beast coming whom the whole world will worship per Rev 13:3-4 and 7-8. Sure he's not called 'antichrist' but the demand for the affectation is an argument from semantics; it's also pedantic and ignores the reality. John doesn't dispute the coming of THE antichrist in 1 John 2, he gives some insight to the people he addresses. 1 John 2 Children, it is the last hour; and just as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, so now many antichrists have appeared. "Just as you have heard antichrist is coming..." is a confirmation there is an antichrist and he is coming. If one only focuses on 'so now many antichrists have appeared.' one might get the impression that it's only many antichrists and that 1 John 4 confirms it simply a spirit of antichrist and that it's many little antichrists and not one main antichrist. But I think that ignores where this antichrist spirit comes from. The 'spirit of antichrist' must come from somewhere. The spirit that inhabits or influences people toward antichrist thought and behavior is of 'antichrist'. When we say 'Spirit of God' we know there is a Spirit and it's from God and of God. Same thing with 'spirit of antichrist'. That spirit is coming from THE antichrist. I suppose that antichrist is Satan, or the dragon. He has to be the biggest 'antichrist' there has ever been. That dragon is coming per Rev 12 and 13. So yeah, THE antichrist is coming. The spirit of THE antichrist is in the world. Just like the Spirit of God is in the world. And we would never say there is no THE God. I think the denial of a coming THE antichrist is a ruse to get us all to ease back, forget about an evil all powerful world dominator bent on global destruction and the death of all the children of God. Once this has taken root in our minds, the lack of a future one world tyrant, a veil is pulled over our eyes and we won't see past the façade. Christians will flock to this pretender for salvation. After all, there is no 'THE antichrist'. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG** Posted December 28, 2021 Group: Senior Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 105 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 541 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 207 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/06/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted December 28, 2021 On 12/14/2021 at 9:59 PM, truth7t7 said: Yes there is a future bad guy, that is referred to as (The Antichrist) all the very same future human man seen below (The Antichrist) Describes The Three Below Daniel's (Little Horn) Paul's (Man Of Sin) John's (The Beast) There is not one (1) Bible verse in the entire Word Of God Genesis to Revelation ~ that connects in any way whatsoever John's antichrists with the Little Horn or Man Of Sin or The Beast ~ its ALL 100% pure ASSUMPTION with not a single shred of evidence to back it up. Its pure 100% assertion and thats all it is. Best Regards. JAG `` Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth7t7 Posted December 28, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,749 Content Per Day: 0.60 Reputation: 329 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/19/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted December 28, 2021 (edited) 20 minutes ago, JAG** said: There is not one (1) Bible verse in the entire Word Of God Genesis to Revelation ~ that connects in any way whatsoever John's antichrists with the Little Horn or Man Of Sin or The Beast ~ its ALL 100% pure ASSUMPTION with not a single shred of evidence to back it up. Its pure 100% assertion and thats all it is. Best Regards. JAG `` The Name Game In Semantics Just as (Trinity) isn't found in the scripture, but we know well it represents the Father, Son, Holy Spirit Just like the word (Rapture) isnt found in the scripture, but we know well it represents the catching up of believers Just as the words (The Antichrist) arent found in the scripture, but it Describes The Three Below Yes there is a future bad guy, that is referred to as (The Antichrist) all the very same future human man seen below Daniel's (Little Horn) Paul's (Man Of Sin) John's (The Beast) Edited December 28, 2021 by truth7t7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Daze Posted January 20, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 84 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 4,011 Content Per Day: 1.12 Reputation: 2,519 Days Won: 4 Joined: 07/17/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted January 20, 2022 On 12/28/2021 at 2:53 PM, JAG** said: There is not one (1) Bible verse in the entire Word Of God Genesis to Revelation ~ that connects in any way whatsoever John's antichrists with the Little Horn or Man Of Sin or The Beast ~ its ALL 100% pure ASSUMPTION with not a single shred of evidence to back it up. Its pure 100% assertion and thats all it is. Agree. He is referred to as the false prophet, the beast from the earth. The beast from the sea is an unseen evil spirit being. The beast from the earth is who everyone will see. There's no need to come up with a new label when the one in scripture works just fine. That's how confusion is created. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted January 20, 2022 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 598 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,171 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,900 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted January 20, 2022 54 minutes ago, Last Daze said: That's how confusion is created. and we've got lots of that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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