Scene: Science Has Spoken So Shut Your Mouth

[JAG**]

Scene: Science Has Spoken So Shut Your Mouth
By JAG
October 23, 2021

Scene:
A high brow cafe near the University of California at Berkeley where political
activist Secular Humanist scientists gather to pontificate, preach, plan, and
plot.

John Citizen Goode, sitting nearby sipping soda and listening to the ongoing
conversation, leans over and says to his friend:
"We're hearing slick Sammy Science's subtle sham shell game being propagated
here. Somebody ought to write a book entitled How Slick Sammy Science Slithers
Hither And Thither To Push on The Public His Personal Political Plans By Craftily
Claiming He Has Science On His Side."

The conversations in the cafe drones on and on . . . . .

"I don't agree with your conclusions on this issue", suddenly said John Citizen Goode.

"Shut your mouth. we have the Science on our side and you don't", screamed Professor
Samuel Slicke Hitla, "you will therefore bow down to our authority."

"I totally agree with that", upspoke Professor Badd Bobby Brainy Himla, "the ends justify
the means, and we're out to save humanity from themselves."

"Yes indeed", replied Professor Madd Muse A. Leanie, "we must save humanity with laws
enforced by police with guns."

"Count me in on that too,", muttered Professor A. Stealthy Staalinn, "the masses are
science-ignorant fools, especially religious people, and they must be controlled by force of
law."

John Citizen Goode turns and says to his friend:
"If you dare oppose these science-tyrants and their science-bigotry, they will create an evil
name for you. They'll label you a Science Denier and then use that to do their best to destroy
you, to ruin your reputation, to destroy your influence, even to get you fired from your job if they
can. When you stop and think about it, we have Science Nazis on our trail and they want to hurt
and destroy us because we dare to oppose THEM.

John Citizen Goode, still taking to his friend, concludes the scene . . . . .
"All evil dictators who desire to be your Lord and Master, claim to have Science on their side. Their
message to you is, we know the truth and you don't, so we need to control you because we know
so much more than you do ~ and its in your long term best interest if you obey us for we have the
Science on our side and you don't. Adolph Hitler was able to recruit more followers among educated
Germans by claiming that Science was on his side. Hitler had highly educated scientists with earned
degrees from reputable universities telling the world that Hitler had the Science on his side.
And enough of the world's gullible bowed down to Hitler's scientists and to his other
We-Have-The-Truth-And-You-Don't-Experts ~ resulting in the world giving birth to hideous Nazism and Nazism giving birth to the evil racist filthy Nazi Eugenics murder machine. John Cornwell wrote a book on that entitled Hitler's Scientists."

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Thoughts?
 

Edited October 23, 2021 by JAG**

[missmuffet]

There are all kind of choices out there. Which choice are you going to make?

[teddyv]

If this is you assumption with respect to all sciences and all scientists, then you really need to meet some more. I don't want to assume, but it feels like you are building a big strawman to attack certain things you don't like about science and the philosophy some of the more rabid new atheists promote. Ignore those. Most of your rank and file scientists are not those people.

Yes, science has been invoked for terrible purposes. So has religion. So has nationalism, etc. etc. Nazism was a whole system that played on all these elements.

[JAG**]

 
I LOVE science. True science. My view is that God LOVES
true science too, for example Math , , ,

My view is that Math originated in the nature of God who
is the Original Mathematician --- just as all the other
disciplines also originated in the nature of God.

God Is The , , , ,
Original Mathematician
Original Physicist
Original Cosmologist
Original Inventor
Original Artist
Original Scientist
Original Oceanographer
Original Philosopher
Original Epistemologist
Original Empiricist
Original Poet
Original Writer
Original Lover {wanting the best for others}
Original Chooser { Volition }
Original Economist
Original Emotion-ist {the full range of All Good Emotions}
Original Planner
Original Creator
Original Designer
Original Technologist
Original Educator
Original Everything Good , , ,

, , and we humans participate in all that up there since we are
made in the image of God , , ,

, , and that above is why human beings, made in the image of God,
have been able to build the modern world and will be able to keep making
progress in Science and Technology for ever and ever, even when the
human race makes the transition from Earthly human history to Eternity.

Humans are made in the image of God and God has , ,
~ An Intellect --- and so do we humans
~ Emotions --- and so do we humans
~ Volition {a Will, the ability to choose -- and so do we humans

God's Human Race Project ends victoriously.

Long live science. True science.

JAG

[JAG**]

3 hours ago, teddyv said:

If this is you assumption with respect to all sciences and all scientists, then you really need to meet some more. I don't want to assume, but it feels like you are building a big strawman to attack certain things you don't like about science and the philosophy some of the more rabid new atheists promote. Ignore those. Most of your rank and file scientists are not those people.

Yes, science has been invoked for terrible purposes. So has religion. So has nationalism, etc. etc. Nazism was a whole system that played on all these elements.

Thanks for your interest in the OP, however you did not read the OP carefully.

My OP is only about these people:

"Scene:
A high brow cafe near the University of California at Berkeley where political
activist Secular Humanist scientists gather to pontificate, preach, plan, and
plot."__From the opening line of the OP

Best

 

JAG

 

 

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[JAG**]

On 10/23/2021 at 12:58 PM, missmuffet said:

There are all kind of choices out there. Which choice are you going to make?

I choose chocolate cake with vanilla ice cream.

 

Best Regards.

 

JAG

 

 

[missmuffet]

1 minute ago, JAG** said:

I choose chocolate cake with vanilla ice cream.

 

Best Regards.

 

JAG

 

 

And your Christian choices?

[JAG**]

3 hours ago, missmuffet said:

And your Christian choices?

I am a Bible believing traditional orthodox Evangelical born again (John 3:3) Christian.

My favorite Bible verse is John 3:16. 

 

Best Regards.

 

JAG

 

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[other one]

29 minutes ago, JAG** said:

I choose chocolate cake with vanilla ice cream.

 

Best Regards.

 

JAG

 

 

Black Walnut goes better...   

[JAG**]

3 hours ago, other one said:

Black Walnut goes better...   

Black Walnut is good.

Try some Breyers Coffee flavored ice cream.

I gave it a shot the other day, and it turned out

to be very tasty (if you like coffee flavor).

 

Best

 

JAG

 

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