Who is the Little Horn of Daniel 8? Can this be linked with the Little Horn in Daniel 7?

[truth7t7]

19 minutes ago, Charlie744 said:

Ok! I do believe you are quite comfortable with your interpretation.... along with the rest of your small group of only 2.3 billion!  I certainly understand.... this is why I started to try and study Daniel on my own (with of course all the 'accepted interpretations from all the scholars and academics at my fingertips), and see why THEY could not come to a consensus on the 30 MAJOR ISSUES / DIFFERENCE IN DANIEL.

If I were you, I would feel the EXACT same way - really.... So I greatly appreciate your comments and responses, Charlie

You state "Your Small Group" as suggesting I'm Roman Catholic I'm not

I'm non-denominational christian, and my belief is based upon my interpretation of the Holy Bible, I dont read books or commentaries on the subject, just the AKJV Bible and Strongs Concordance 

Edited December 22, 2021 by truth7t7

[Charlie744]

Just now, truth7t7 said:

Charlie we disagree, Daniel's bad guy seen in chapters 7,8,9,11 are all the same, who is the very same as Paul's bad guy, and John's bad guy

Nothing restricts you from presenting your argument that there are three different entities, I disagree

There you go again..... you bring in Paul and John and of course his Revelation.... Chapter 7 gives us the break down of the 3 separate entities that USE TO BE the 4th kingdom in chapter 2. Chapter 8 ONLY ADDRESSES OR FOCUSES ON the kings of the kingdom (not Babylon, Medes-Persia, etc.). 

Chapter 9 does NOT in any way shape or form have anything to do with AC. Because the 'he' is the 'HE' (Messiah) in 9.

Chapter 11 begins with pagan Rome and the last two chapters take us to the end of time until His second coming.  

As I mentioned, Daniel MUST BE interpreted before you can take these images, symbols and messages (prophetic) over to the other side of the Cross (Revelation).

[Charlie744]

1 minute ago, truth7t7 said:

You state "My Small Group" as suggesting I'm Roman Catholic I'm not

I'm non-denominational christian, and my belief is based upon my interpretation of the Holy Bible, I dont read books or commentaries on the subject, just the AKJV Bible and Strongs Concordance 

NO, NO... how can a 2.3 BILLION member group of anything be small?  I was obviously being facetious - meaning YOU are part of the 2.3 BILLION who feel the same way YOU do and do NOT agree with me.... Charlie 

[truth7t7]

14 minutes ago, Charlie744 said:

Truth, I think I mentioned many times I am not capable of discussing Revelation until Daniel is completed..... AND trust me, the currently accepted interpretations of Daniel (30 major issues) are flawed and are sent directly ahead to Revelation. Once there, they corrupt Revelation because the two interpretations MUST FIT LIKE A GLOVE. The 'Daniel glove' you (not you personally) place on Revelation's hand does not fit at all... It is like a 3 fingered left hand child's glove being placed on a right  hand man. Remember - 'if the glove doesn't fit, you must acquit'. 

That is your opinion and we disagree

[Charlie744]

Just now, truth7t7 said:

That is your opinion and we disagree

Well, now we're getting somewhere! Charlie

[JoeCanada]

10 minutes ago, truth7t7 said:

Jerusalem) is the seven hilled city, where the woman sits, not Rome as many falsely claim.

(Revelation) 17:9KJV
9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

Hi truth7t7,

The scripture says 'mountains'...but then right away you interpret that to mean "hills"

This is nonsensical. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Dan 2:35 tells us that "mountain" is a symbol for kingdom. This makes perfect sense. A "head" is a symbol of power and authority, just like Jesus is the "head" of His Church. Why it could ever be considered a symbol of a "hill" is beyond me.

"The woman sitting on a scarlet beast.... the 7 heads are 7 mountains on which the woman sits, and they are 7 kings"

Here the 7 heads are 7 mountains and & 7 kings. The 7 heads of the Beast are symbolic; they are both mountains (kingdoms) and they are kings.

 

[Charlie744]

1 minute ago, JoeCanada said:

Hi truth7t7,

The scripture says 'mountains'...but then right away you interpret that to mean "hills"

This is nonsensical. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Dan 2:35 tells us that "mountain" is a symbol for kingdom. This makes perfect sense. A "head" is a symbol of power and authority, just like Jesus is the "head" of His Church. Why it could ever be considered a symbol of a "hill" is beyond me.

"The woman sitting on a scarlet beast.... the 7 heads are 7 mountains on which the woman sits, and they are 7 kings"

Here the 7 heads are 7 mountains and & 7 kings. The 7 heads of the Beast are symbolic; they are both mountains (kingdoms) and they are kings.

 

Joe, your 'batman'!

[truth7t7]

20 minutes ago, Charlie744 said:

Chapter 9 does NOT in any way shape or form have anything to do with AC. Because the 'he' is the 'HE' (Messiah) in 9.

Chapter 11 begins with pagan Rome and the last two chapters take us to the end of time until His second coming.  

As I mentioned, Daniel MUST BE interpreted before you can take these images, symbols and messages (prophetic) over to the other side of the Cross (Revelation).

You believe the character below is Jesus Christ causing abomination and desolation?

Daniel 9:27AKJV

And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Edited December 22, 2021 by truth7t7

[truth7t7]

9 minutes ago, JoeCanada said:

Hi truth7t7,

The scripture says 'mountains'...but then right away you interpret that to mean "hills"

This is nonsensical. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Dan 2:35 tells us that "mountain" is a symbol for kingdom. This makes perfect sense. A "head" is a symbol of power and authority, just like Jesus is the "head" of His Church. Why it could ever be considered a symbol of a "hill" is beyond me.

"The woman sitting on a scarlet beast.... the 7 heads are 7 mountains on which the woman sits, and they are 7 kings"

Here the 7 heads are 7 mountains and & 7 kings. The 7 heads of the Beast are symbolic; they are both mountains (kingdoms) and they are kings.

 

I disagree, no place in the scripture below does it even suggest the seven mountains are Kings as you suggest

Revelation 17:9-10AKJV

9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. 10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.

Edited December 22, 2021 by truth7t7

[Charlie744]

6 minutes ago, truth7t7 said:

You believe the character below is Jesus Christ causing abomination and desolation?

Daniel 9:27AKJV

And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

The 'he' here is 'HE', the Messiah.... Chapter 9 speaks of the Messiah and HIS 6 requirements to be fulfilled at His coming.

Daniel writes about Jesus ... everyone else is a bit player....