Ezekiel Chapters 47-48 Is The Eternal Kingdom, Dont Be Deceived

[truth7t7]

1 hour ago, adamjedgar said:

If Ezekiel was read as a dual prophecy, then both views are correct. 

It has application for the captive Israelites AND for Christians (spiritual Israel) at the end of time when the new earth is recreated.

Gods words clearly show (Two Israel's) below

1.) Israel of the flesh (Jews)

2.) Israel of the promised seed (Church)

Scripture clearly teaches Israel of the flesh, they aren't the children of God, it's that simple

Romans 9:6-8KJV

6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: 7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. 8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

Matthew 21:43KJV

43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

Edited December 24, 2021 by truth7t7

[AdHoc]

2 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

Jesus Christ fulfilled all the promises made to Abraham, National Israel has no covenant, either than salvation through Jesus Christ

Galatians 3:16KJV

16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

Ezekiel 37:27 seen below, will be fulfilled in the New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, Not On This Earth In A Millennial Kingdom Not Found In Scripture 

Ezekiel 37:27AKJV

27 My tabernacle also shall be with them: yea, I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

Revelation 21:3AKJV

3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.

Our Lord Jesus did not fulfill the Promises made to Abraham. In Galatians He IS the Seed (singular) IN WHOM, at a later date, will bless "all families of the earth". One of His aspects is that He has become the Spirit to both dwell in, and sanctify men. He will be the King of the earth and enforce a benign government on earth in which all families of the earth will be blessed. But Abraham was promised the Land of Canaan, and later, the whole earth (Rom.4:13). This has not been fulfilled yet. Abraham was promised "seed" (i) as the sand of the sea shore which show a "terrestrial" glory in resurrection, and "seed" as the stars of heaven which will show a "celestial" glory in resurrection. These are not fulfilled yet as the resurrection is not fulfilled.

The solemn thing is that anybody who claims that Abraham and his seed will not inherit the earth, especially his "Seed" (Christ), must explain why - for they make God a liar. Galatians 3:17 says that this Covenant is NOT ANNULLED, and 3:29 says that the promise is still valid - especially us who are Christ's.

[truth7t7]

24 minutes ago, AdHoc said:

Our Lord Jesus did not fulfill the Promises made to Abraham. In Galatians He IS the Seed (singular) IN WHOM, at a later date, will bless "all families of the earth". One of His aspects is that He has become the Spirit to both dwell in, and sanctify men. He will be the King of the earth and enforce a benign government on earth in which all families of the earth will be blessed. But Abraham was promised the Land of Canaan, and later, the whole earth (Rom.4:13). This has not been fulfilled yet. Abraham was promised "seed" (i) as the sand of the sea shore which show a "terrestrial" glory in resurrection, and "seed" as the stars of heaven which will show a "celestial" glory in resurrection. These are not fulfilled yet as the resurrection is not fulfilled.

The solemn thing is that anybody who claims that Abraham and his seed will not inherit the earth, especially his "Seed" (Christ), must explain why - for they make God a liar. Galatians 3:17 says that this Covenant is NOT ANNULLED, and 3:29 says that the promise is still valid - especially us who are Christ's.

We disagree Hoc 

Jesus has blessed the earth, as he shed his precious blood, and men now have eternal salvation and a mediator, they are filled with God the Holy Spirit, Jesus now sits at the right hand of the father reigning

There isnt a future promise to National Israel, Jesus Christ has fulfilled all promises and covenants

Jesus Christ will return in fire and final judgement, dissolving this earth by fire, with the New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem revealed for eternity

Hoc there isnt a Millennial kingdom found in scripture, it's a Zionist fairy tale

In Love, Jesus Is The Lord

Edited December 24, 2021 by truth7t7

[AdHoc]

8 minutes ago, truth7t7 said:

We disagree Hoc 

Jesus has blessed the earth, as he shed his precious blood, and men now have eternal salvation and a mediator, they are filled with God the Holy Spirit, Jesus now sits at the right hand of the father reigning

There isnt a future promise to National Israel, Jesus Christ has fulfilled all promises and covenants

Jesus Christ will return in fire and final judgement, dissolving this earth by fire, with the New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem revealed for eternity

Hoc there isnt a Millennial kingdom found in scripture, it's a Zionist fairy tale

In Love, Jesus Is The Lord

OK: We've both stated our cases. There isn't much more to be said - except, God bless.

[angels4u]

Deuteronomy 30:1–10

 

Repentance and Forgiveness

30 h“And iwhen all these things come upon you, the blessing and the curse, which I have set before you, and jyou call them to mind among all the nations where the Lord your God has driven you, 2 and kreturn to the Lord your God, you and your children, and obey his voice in all that I command you today, with all your heart and with all your soul, 3 then the Lord your God lwill restore your fortunes and have mercy on you, and he will mgather you again from all the peoples where the Lord your God has scattered you. 4 nIf your outcasts are in the uttermost parts of heaven, from there the Lord your God will gather you, and from there he will take you. 5 And the Lord your God will bring you into the land that your fathers possessed, that you may possess it. oAnd he will make you more prosperous and numerous than your fathers. 6 And pthe Lord your God will circumcise your heart and the heart of your offspring, qso that you will love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul, that you may live. 7 And the Lord your God will put all these curses on your foes and enemies who persecuted you. 8 And you shall again obey the voice of the Lord and keep all his commandments that I command you today. 9 rThe Lord your God will make you abundantly prosperous in all the work of your hand, in the fruit of your womb and in the fruit of your cattle and in the fruit of your ground. sFor the Lord will again take delight in prospering you, as he took delight in your fathers, 10 when you obey the voice of the Lord your God, to keep his commandments and his statutes that are written in this Book of the Law, when you turn to the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul.

[angels4u]

14 minutes ago, truth7t7 said:

We disagree Hoc 

Jesus has blessed the earth, as he shed his precious blood, and men now have eternal salvation and a mediator, they are filled with God the Holy Spirit, Jesus now sits at the right hand of the father reigning

There isnt a future promise to National Israel, Jesus Christ has fulfilled all promises and covenants

Jesus Christ will return in fire and final judgement, dissolving this earth by fire, with the New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem revealed for eternity

Hoc there isnt a Millennial kingdom found in scripture, it's a Zionist fairy tale

In Love, Jesus Is The Lord

Do you believe the Church replaced Israel?

[truth7t7]

1 minute ago, angels4u said:

Do you believe the Church replaced Israel?

Gods words clearly show (Two Israel's) below

1.) Israel of the flesh (Jews)

2.) Israel of the promised seed (Church)

Scripture clearly teaches Israel of the flesh, they aren't the children of God, it's that simple

Romans 9:6-8KJV

6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: 7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. 8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

Yes the Kingdom of God has been taken from National Ethnic Israel, And Given To The Church, a "Holy Nation" as clearly seen below

Matthew 21:43KJV

3 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

1 Peter 2:9KJV

9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;

[angels4u]

11 minutes ago, truth7t7 said:

Gods words clearly show (Two Israel's) below

1.) Israel of the flesh (Jews)

2.) Israel of the promised seed (Church)

Scripture clearly teaches Israel of the flesh, they aren't the children of God, it's that simple

Romans 9:6-8KJV

6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: 7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. 8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

Yes the Kingdom of God has been taken from National Ethnic Israel, And Given To The Church, a "Holy Nation" as clearly seen below

Matthew 21:43KJV

3 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

1 Peter 2:9KJV

9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;

The Church did not replace Israel,God has promised that through that remnant He will bless all the nations of the world during the Millennial reign of Jesus.

[truth7t7]

25 minutes ago, angels4u said:

The Church did not replace Israel,God has promised that through that remnant He will bless all the nations of the world during the Millennial reign of Jesus.

The remnant chosen elect will be saved and added to the Church on earth, where there is neither Jew nor Greek

There Will Be No 1,000 Year Millennial Kingdom Upon This Earth, Jesus Christ Returns In Fire And Final Judgement, Dissolving This Existing Earth By Fire, Immediately After The Tribulation

This Existing Heaven And Earth Will Be (Replaced) By The New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, A New Creation, At The Return Of Jesus Christ

(Behold, I Make All Things New)

2 Peter 3:10-13KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

Revelation 21:1-5KJV
1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

Matthew 24:29-30KJV
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

1 Corinthians 3:13KJV
13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

2 Thessalonians 1:7-9KJV
7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

Malachi 3:2KJV
2 But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap:

Psalm 46:6KJV
6 The heathen raged, the kingdoms were moved: he uttered his voice, the earth melted.

Psalm 50:3KJV
3 Our God shall come, and shall not keep silence: a fire shall devour before him, and it shall be very tempestuous round about him.

Psalm 97:5KJV
5 The hills melted like wax at the presence of the Lord, at the presence of the Lord of the whole earth.

Isaiah 66:15KJV
15 For, behold, the Lord will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.

Zechariah 14:12KJV
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

Nahum 1:5-6KJV
5 The mountains quake at him, and the hills melt, and the earth is burned at his presence, yea, the world, and all that dwell therein.
6 Who can stand before his indignation? and who can abide in the fierceness of his anger? his fury is poured out like fire, and the rocks are thrown down by him.

Revelation 20:9KJV
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

Edited December 24, 2021 by truth7t7

[angels4u]

5 minutes ago, truth7t7 said:

The remnant chosen elect will be saved and added to the Church on earth, where there is neither Jew nor Greek

There Will Be No 1,000 Year Millennial Kingdom Upon This Earth, Jesus Christ Returns In Fire And Final Judgement, Dissolving This Existing Earth By Fire, Immediately After The Tribulation

This Existing Heaven And Earth Will Be (Replaced) By The New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, A New Creation, At The Return Of Jesus Christ

(Behold, I Make All Things New)

2 Peter 3:10-13KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

Revelation 21:1-5KJV
1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

Matthew 24:29-30KJV
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

1 Corinthians 3:13KJV
13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

2 Thessalonians 1:7-9KJV
7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

Malachi 3:2KJV
2 But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap:

Psalm 46:6KJV
6 The heathen raged, the kingdoms were moved: he uttered his voice, the earth melted.

Psalm 50:3KJV
3 Our God shall come, and shall not keep silence: a fire shall devour before him, and it shall be very tempestuous round about him.

Psalm 97:5KJV
5 The hills melted like wax at the presence of the Lord, at the presence of the Lord of the whole earth.

Isaiah 66:15KJV
15 For, behold, the Lord will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.

Zechariah 14:12KJV
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

Nahum 1:5-6KJV
5 The mountains quake at him, and the hills melt, and the earth is burned at his presence, yea, the world, and all that dwell therein.
6 Who can stand before his indignation? and who can abide in the fierceness of his anger? his fury is poured out like fire, and the rocks are thrown down by him.

Revelation 20:9KJV
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

We have to agree to disagree..