Sabbath Issues

[Walter and Deborah]

Saturday 12-25-21 Tevet 20, 5782 7th. day of the weekly cycle, 5th. Winter Day

I Posted this 6-11-19

Is there anyone that keeps The Sabbath Day Holy, from Sunset on the 6th.Day/Friday until The ending of The 7th. Day at Sunset, on Saturday by The Gregorian Calendar.

If so being on one accord for that event to happen, We want to thank God for your Faith in doing just that as a start to perfection. Every Sabbath , Sabbath Scriptures: About Sabbath Scriptures , Sabbath Day In The KJV

Sabbath Day, Please Read all.

Sabbaths , Judging one another about the Sabbath .

I have reason to believe of the above study, that The Sabbaths and the Feast Days/Holy Convocations goes together for his/Jesus customs as him and The Apostles, went in the synagogues. Luke 4:16 , Acts 17:2

Acts 17:2

Righteousness is a position. When you become saved you are considered in right standing with God. ... Holiness is the quality of being holy, a life that is full of godly character. Righteousness is to be upright in God, to be blamless. A righteousness man is also a holy man, both of them work together.

Ephesians 4 KJV

LOL, Walter and Debbie

 

 

 

Edited December 25, 2021 by Walter and Deborah
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[Mama Etna]

Well said.  I prefer the Sabbath myself and it is my day of rest.  But I am not legalistic on the matter.

5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.

6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.

7 For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself.

8 For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord's.

9 For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living.

10 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.

11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.

12 So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.

Romans 14:5-12

[R. Hartono]

7 hours ago, Mama Etna said:

5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.

6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.

7 For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself.

8 For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord's.

9 For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living.

10 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.

11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.

12 So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.

Romans 14:5-12

True. As Paul said we shud not judge those who don't watch Sabbath, thats true Christianity instead of clumsy Theologians.

Edited December 25, 2021 by R. Hartono

[Bawb]

Could it be that ALL of the Commandments are still relevant and we are expected to keep them? Nah, that's "Old Testament" some say?

Well...

Revelation 14:12 - Here is a call for the perseverance of the Saints who keep the Commandments of YeHoVah and the Faith of Yeshua.

The Commandments: To include the 7th Day Sabbath.

In Colossians 2:16 - Therefore let no one judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a feast, a New Moon, or a Sabbath.

Sha'ul was speaking to Hebrew and Gentile Believers in Colossae.

People who ignorantly argue the "Old Testament" was done away with need to look at the following website: (Scroll down for the chart)

https://www.bible.ca/manuscripts/List-of-300-Old-Testament-passage-quotes-in-New-Testament-Septuagint-Codex-Vaticanus-LXX-Masoretic-MT-Jewish-Tanakh-Bible.htm

https://www.biblestudytools.com/bible-study/topical-studies/when-were-the-gospels-written.html

 

And in 2 Timothy 3:16  What "Scriptures" do people think Paul was talking about when he wrote? Every Scripture is God-breathed and profitable for instruction, for conviction, for correction, and for training in righteousness,

 

 

 

[Ancient]

9 hours ago, Bawb said:

Could it be that ALL of the Commandments are still relevant and we are expected to keep them? Nah, that's "Old Testament" some say?

Well...

Revelation 14:12 - Here is a call for the perseverance of the Saints who keep the Commandments of YeHoVah and the Faith of Yeshua.

The Commandments: To include the 7th Day Sabbath.

In Colossians 2:16 - Therefore let no one judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a feast, a New Moon, or a Sabbath.

Sha'ul was speaking to Hebrew and Gentile Believers in Colossae.

People who ignorantly argue the "Old Testament" was done away with need to look at the following website: (Scroll down for the chart)

https://www.bible.ca/manuscripts/List-of-300-Old-Testament-passage-quotes-in-New-Testament-Septuagint-Codex-Vaticanus-LXX-Masoretic-MT-Jewish-Tanakh-Bible.htm

https://www.biblestudytools.com/bible-study/topical-studies/when-were-the-gospels-written.html

 

And in 2 Timothy 3:16  What "Scriptures" do people think Paul was talking about when he wrote? Every Scripture is God-breathed and profitable for instruction, for conviction, for correction, and for training in righteousness,

 

 

 

Yes friend your right the verse quoted in Colossians is so misunderstood. It is saying don't let them judge you i.e., Gentiles. In keeping the Sabbath, feasts and New Moons. Hebrews observed these days. As when one places it in context with the rest of the Bible it is very clear when the Sabbath was. The OT also teaches about the New Moon and obviously the feast are the feast of Yahweh as taught in Lev 23. Maybe another big hint is that the God of the Bible is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, The God of Israel, The God of the Hebrews if you were to ask Pharaoh. 

But no antisemitism, de-judaizing of the English Bible translations redefined some key words and walla you have doctrines and theologies of men influenced by demons. But the awesome thing is, is that Yahweh and Yeshua are restoring all things. You can't restore something new only something old will be restored. Halleluyah!!

Shalom

Edited December 26, 2021 by Ancient

[Bawb]

7 hours ago, Ancient said:

Yes friend your right the verse quoted in Colossians is so misunderstood. It is saying don't let them judge you i.e., Gentiles. In keeping the Sabbath, feasts and New Moons. Hebrews observed these days. As when one places it in context with the rest of the Bible it is very clear when the Sabbath was. The OT also teaches about the New Moon and obviously the feast are the feast of Yahweh as taught in Lev 23. Maybe another big hint is that the God of the Bible is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, The God of Israel, The God of the Hebrews if you were to ask Pharaoh. 

But no antisemitism, de-judaizing of the English Bible translations redefined some key words and walla you have doctrines and theologies of men influenced by demons. But the awesome thing is, is that Yahweh and Yeshua are restoring all things. You can't restore something new only something old will be restored. Halleluyah!!

Shalom

Halleluyah! Someone else gets it! I can sometimes be frustrating and lonely trying to be in pursuit of Truth and living in accordance to Abba-Yah's Word. I find it worrisome how if you WANT to follow the Commandments, you are called legalistic (By people who have no clue what the word actually means). But it's acceptable to not follow the commandments and be lawless. Thank you OP and Ancient, you have lifted our spirits with your posts!

[R. Hartono]

On 12/26/2021 at 8:42 AM, Bawb said:

Could it be that ALL of the Commandments are still relevant and we are expected to keep them? Nah, that's "Old Testament" some say?

Well...

Revelation 14:12 - Here is a call for the perseverance of the Saints who keep the Commandments of YeHoVah and the Faith of Yeshua.

The Commandments: To include the 7th Day Sabbath.

In Colossians 2:16 - Therefore let no one judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a feast, a New Moon, or a Sabbath.

Sha'ul was speaking to Hebrew and Gentile Believers in Colossae.

People who ignorantly argue the "Old Testament" was done away with need to look at the following website: (Scroll down for the chart)

https://www.bible.ca/manuscripts/List-of-300-Old-Testament-passage-quotes-in-New-Testament-Septuagint-Codex-Vaticanus-LXX-Masoretic-MT-Jewish-Tanakh-Bible.htm

https://www.biblestudytools.com/bible-study/topical-studies/when-were-the-gospels-written.html

 

And in 2 Timothy 3:16  What "Scriptures" do people think Paul was talking about when he wrote? Every Scripture is God-breathed and profitable for instruction, for conviction, for correction, and for training in righteousness,

 

 

 

 

On 12/26/2021 at 5:42 PM, Ancient said:

Yes friend your right the verse quoted in Colossians is so misunderstood. It is saying don't let them judge you i.e., Gentiles. In keeping the Sabbath, feasts and New Moons. Hebrews observed these days. As when one places it in context with the rest of the Bible it is very clear when the Sabbath was. The OT also teaches about the New Moon and obviously the feast are the feast of Yahweh as taught in Lev 23. Maybe another big hint is that the God of the Bible is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, The God of Israel, The God of the Hebrews if you were to ask Pharaoh. 

But no antisemitism, de-judaizing of the English Bible translations redefined some key words and walla you have doctrines and theologies of men influenced by demons. But the awesome thing is, is that Yahweh and Yeshua are restoring all things. You can't restore something new only something old will be restored. Halleluyah!!

Shalom

 

On 12/27/2021 at 12:49 AM, Bawb said:

Halleluyah! Someone else gets it! I can sometimes be frustrating and lonely trying to be in pursuit of Truth and living in accordance to Abba-Yah's Word. I find it worrisome how if you WANT to follow the Commandments, you are called legalistic (By people who have no clue what the word actually means). But it's acceptable to not follow the commandments and be lawless. Thank you OP and Ancient, you have lifted our spirits with your posts!

https://www.worthychristianforums.com/topic/273448-paul-rebuked-sabbath-lovers-as-peter-rebuked-law-maniacs/

 

[Ancient]

On 12/27/2021 at 4:49 AM, Bawb said:

Halleluyah! Someone else gets it! I can sometimes be frustrating and lonely trying to be in pursuit of Truth and living in accordance to Abba-Yah's Word. I find it worrisome how if you WANT to follow the Commandments, you are called legalistic (By people who have no clue what the word actually means). But it's acceptable to not follow the commandments and be lawless. Thank you OP and Ancient, you have lifted our spirits with your posts!

Yes Bawb we are out here and the exciting thing is we are growing. Part of the restoration of all things. Hang in there brother, there are many of us and Yahweh is bringing us together, but also keep in mind the scriptures also speak of the remnant. 

Shalom

[Bawb]

On 12/26/2021 at 5:42 AM, Ancient said:

Yes friend your right the verse quoted in Colossians is so misunderstood. It is saying don't let them judge you i.e., Gentiles. In keeping the Sabbath, feasts and New Moons. Hebrews observed these days. As when one places it in context with the rest of the Bible it is very clear when the Sabbath was. The OT also teaches about the New Moon and obviously the feast are the feast of Yahweh as taught in Lev 23. Maybe another big hint is that the God of the Bible is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, The God of Israel, The God of the Hebrews if you were to ask Pharaoh. 

But no antisemitism, de-judaizing of the English Bible translations redefined some key words and walla you have doctrines and theologies of men influenced by demons. But the awesome thing is, is that Yahweh and Yeshua are restoring all things. You can't restore something new only something old will be restored. Halleluyah!!

Shalom

Too many people view the Bible wrongly...

The Bible is a River of Living Water. The Old testament flows smoothly into the New Testament and we are then refreshed from our thirst by that water.

Too many people put a dam between the "Old Testament" and the "New Testament". Then they put a spigot on the dam. And then they proclaim, this is where all living water starts. They act as if the water comes out of the spigot from nowhere while not even realizing it came from the water behind that blank sheet of paper they've made into a dam!

Yes SHALOM!

Edited December 29, 2021 by Bawb

[Bawb]

19 hours ago, R. Hartono said:

https://www.worthychristianforums.com/topic/273448-paul-rebuked-sabbath-lovers-as-peter-rebuked-law-maniacs/

I find it amazing when people who keep the commandments are called freaks and maniacs...

Would these words have come from the mouth of Yeshua?

Would He have said this or is this something that "The Lawless One" would have stated?

Maybe look what the Scriptures say about it?

1 John 3:4 - Whosoever practices sin also transgresses the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

Isaiah 58:12 through14- 12Your people will rebuild the ancient ruins; you will restore the age-old foundations; you will be called Repairer of the Breach, Restorer of the Streets of Dwelling. 13If you turn your foot from breaking the Sabbath, from doing as you please on My holy day, if you call the Sabbath a delight, and YeHoVah’s holy day honorable, if you honor it by not going your own way or seeking your own pleasure or speaking idle words, 14then you will delight yourself in the YeHoVah, and I will make you ride on the heights of the land and feed you with the heritage of your father Jacob.” For the mouth of the YeHoVah has spoken.

I remember people being called Jesus Freaks in school. Now this is where we are? Calling believers Sabbath maniacs?

Edited December 29, 2021 by Bawb