Is America Missing in Prophecy?

[Guest shadow2b]

AHhhhhhhhhhhh------William my brother------ this is very well laid out-----very interesting-----BUT like NEB---

I do have some doubts as weLL-------you worked very hard on this & I appreciate all your time & effort-------

me thinketh i should study more on this before i make any decision---yea or nay--??.?? :upsided: :x: :t3:

do you have any more on this that might help EXplain or amplify your thoughts ??.??

thank you very much william---------------{Gary}-- :baa: :bright:

[BlindSeeker]

Nebula and Shadow2B,

Very good questions Nebula . . . I like that:)

I will address your comments and questions as soon as time permits. While I have spoken on this subject countless times I have written very little regarding it. I also have some links concerning Pearl Harbor which I think you will find interesting.

Remember, a preemptive strike is intended to be a mortal wound . . . whether it is or not.

Peace,

William

[BlindSeeker]

. . . It is an interesting train of logic you are following here. There are many things that to me make sense, yet other things which do not.

Comparing Pearl Harbor to the fatal wound which was healed - that seems like a big stretch to me. I'm not an historian, but I do not believe this attack went down on record as being a fatal wound to America from which it was healed - a serious wound, maybe, but not fatal. Besides, the Navy is only one branch of the armed services, and I am not so sure that a wound to one branch of the armed services could be considered a fatal blow to the entire country . . .

Greeting Nebula,

Sorry for the delay in getting back with you. Hope things have been well with you and yours.

Concerning Pearl Harbor . . . I feel many people/Christian under estimate the significance of Pearl Harbor. There are many spiritual laws that have been transgressed by this country's leaders . . . For some time now. I have provided you with some links concerning Pearl Harbor below for your consideration.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/departments/...1999/070499.htm

http://thenewamerican.com/node/1106

http://www.rooseveltmyth.com/FinalSecret/

Regarding the

[nebula]

Well, that's OK you took your time - I kind of laid out a lot of questions for you to sort through.

Like Shadow2Be, I can appreciate the work you put into this. Although I appreciate your response, I still do not see it panning out as you have interpreted it.

What bothers me the most is that some of your claims go against what other spiritual authorities are saying regarding the current times. I don't mean about the interpretation of the eighth beast as being a nation rather than the "person" of "the Anti-Christ" as has always been interpreted, or even the Beast that comes out of the Earth, called "the false prophet" in Rev. 19:20, being the leader of that nation.

A cry has been sounded. The heart of God desired for his people to intercede for then President Clinton to become truly born-agian. Instead, we yelled at him, we criticized him, we made fun of him, we tore him to shreds, we mocked him. Some said, but we did pray for him!" Sure, "Lord, do something about that dirty, rotten sinner!" Is that a prayer of fragrant incense before the Lord?" Or others actually would pray sincerely, "Lord, save this man who desperately needs you!" But then they would go around spreading derogatory "Clinton jokes" and still go about slandering him. I know I was guilty, and when I heard this cry that it was the Lord's desire for us to truly intercede for him, but that we failed, I was stricken to the heart. But it still took me a long time to lay aside the slander. I wonder how many others really took this to heart in even a small measure.

The current cry I have heard is that President Bush is our last chance. If we don't cry out to God for this man, we've really screwed up bad and big time. We, the Church, are supposed to be salt and light to the world - not hiding in our homes from the evil of the world waiting for Jesus to come and take it all away. As romantic as the image of the handsome prince battling his way to the tower and slaying the dragon to save the princess locked in the tower is, this is not what Jesus wants for Him and His bride. Remember, the Kingdom of God is in us! He wants to build the Kingdom through us! We need to be advancing the Kingdom here on Earth, now and throughout our lives. How can we advance th Kingdom if we are crying out Evil! Evil! and Sin! Sin! all over the place? If we just shine the light, the light will do its own job in exposing the darkness!

The cry of the Lord that I have heard is for us to diligently seek the lord in prayer over Pres. Bush, to continually bring him before the throne of God, for him to seek the Lord himself, for him to make wise decisions, stuff like that. None of this fits with him being the Beast. I don't know all that is going on with the Mid-East (after Desert storm, I learned to be careful in jumping to any conclusions too quickly), nor with this Roadmap to Peace plan. But I do know that this is all the more proof that we need to earnestly seek the Lord for Pres. Bush and the decisions he is making - for the enemy would greatly desire to use him for his purposes, be they great or small. We can't let this happen to him, to our beloved nation. We need to fight for this nation! How can we say, "Well, the U.S. is the eighth beast, therefore doomed to destruction, therefore we'll just let it go to its evil ways,..."? No! This is not the cry of the Lord that is being sounded! We've got to fall on our faces before the Lord and cry out for this land! For our president! For our Congress! For our Supreme Court! For our state governments and legislatures! For our county governments and legislatures! For our schools! For our friends, neighbors, family members! How can we just let these perish?

Shine the light and let the light take care of the darkness. Just shine the light.

[BlindSeeker]

Amen Nebula, God is not willing that any should perish. Pray . . . but pray for their salvation. Prophecy is prophecy. It is what it is. Not one word of God's will fail . . .

Remember though . . . nations are but dust in the scales of God . . . nothing but dust. Seek first the kingdom of God.

Peace.

William

[BlindSeeker]

What bothers me the most is that some of your claims go against what other spiritual authorities are saying regarding the current times.

[nebula]

Thank you for answering as you did.

But I have to ask - why are you convinced President Bush is not saved?

BTW - "The spiritual authorities" I was refering to are prophets. See here for an example.

[BlindSeeker]

Thank you for answering as you did.

But I have to ask - why are you convinced President Bush is not saved?

BTE - "The spiritual authorities" I was refering to are prophets. See here for an example.

Interesting question . . . perhaps you could share why you are so convinced that he is . . .

William

[BlindSeeker]

Nebula,

I found the link you provided to be laced with presumption and vain speculation, not to mention some which I feel was blasphemy . . .

The last paragraph is a good example and it really bothered me . . . here's the first part -

[nebula]

But I have to ask - why are you convinced President Bush is not saved?

Interesting question . . . perhaps you could share why you are so convinced that he is . . .

Well, when someone shares their "born-again" experience, I tend to believe him/her. Then when other Christians who have interactions with this person affirm this faith in that one, I tend to believe them as well.

I have heard both with President Bush.