Lord: Rise Now and Judge the World

[Alive]

Have you ever tried to imagine the world since say--300 AD and forward without the Gospel?

Thinking about that a while, helps to see just how much influence the Gospel has had and continues to have.

I digress.

:-)

[Keras]

15 minutes ago, Josheb said:

Lord, rise now and cover the world with the gospel!

An excellent sentiment and the desire of all Christians. 

However; initially:  that is not what the Prophesies tell us will happen.   Jesus said: it will be as in the days of Noah when He comes [sends] to bring fire upon the earth. Literal fire, as over 70 prophesies attest. 

We have ample warning from the Bible and from the signs of instability and change all around us. Discounting and ignoring what God has told us; in great detail, of His Plans for our future, is a bad mistake. 

[Alive]

4 minutes ago, Keras said:

Discounting and ignoring what God has told us; in great detail, of His Plans for our future, is a bad mistake. 

Do we not trust Him? Regardless of our views on eschatology?

[transmogrified]

On 2/11/2022 at 12:35 PM, Keras said:

On 2/11/2022 at 5:46 AM, transmogrified said:

Where in the scripture does it say the a trumpet is blown at the end of the 1000 years?

1 Corinthians 15:52  ....at the last trumpet call.

This trumpet blast will call up all the dead; everyone who has ever lived; to stand before God in Judgment, Revelation 20:11-15, Daniel 7:9-10

Do these scriptures refer to the same trumpet?

1) 1 Thess. 4:16

For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

2) Isaiah 27: 13

And it shall come to pass in that day, that the great trumpet shall be blown, and they shall come which were ready to perish in the land of Assyria, and the outcasts in the land of Egypt, and shall worship the LORD in the holy mount at Jerusalem.

3) Matthew 24:31

 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Rev. 11:15"

And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

[Keras]

7 hours ago, Josheb said:

Why ask for only the "initial"?

Because that is what I am trying to warn people about. The forthcoming Day when the Lord will one again reset our civilization to a similar degree as He did in the days of Noah. 

A people who keep the faith- righteous Christians:

Isaiah 26:11 Lord; Your hand is lifted high, let the fire reserved for Your enemies consume them. The godless cannot see how You will protect Your people.

Isaiah 26:20-21 Go My people, enter your rooms and shut the doors after you. Withdraw for a little while, until the Lord’s wrath has passed. The Lord is coming from His dwelling place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their sins. Then the earth will show the blood shed on it and hide the slain no more.

Isaiah 25:9 On that Day, Your people will say: See, this is our God, we have waited for Him and He will deliver us, let us rejoice and exult in His deliverance.

Isaiah 25:1-3 God Almighty, You are my God, I shall praise You, for You have done wonderful things – long planned, certain and sure. You have turned cities into heaps of rubble, their houses swept away – never to be rebuilt. For this, many a cruel nation is in awe of You.

 

Isaiah 26:16-19 In our distress, Lord, we sought You out, chastened by the whisper of Your rebuke. As a woman with child cries out in her pains, so were we because of You, Lord. Our labor has been in vain, we achieved nothing for Your Land or people. But Your dead will live, those long dead who lay in the earth, will rise again, they will arise and shout for joy.

Isaiah 25:4-5 Truly, You have been a refuge to the poor and needy in their distress, their shelter from the tempest, shade from the heat. For the attack of the godless gets them nowhere and You silence the uproar of our enemies.

Isaiah 26:15 Lord, You have enlarged the nation and won honor for Yourself. You have extended all the frontiers of this country.

Isaiah 26:1-2 On that Day this song will be sung in Judah; We have a strong city – Open the gates, let a righteous nation enter, a people who kept the faith.

                                              Reference: REB, NIV, KJV. Some verses abridged

 

 The Lord’s hand of judgement is ready to strike, the fire reserved for Your enemies will consume them. Isaiah 66:15-16, Malachi 4:1, Revelation 6:12-17

 for the attack of the godless gets them nowhere, The fulfilment of Psalms 83, Micah 4:11-12, Jeremiah 49:35-37

Whole cities are destroyed and those killed will lie unburied. Amos 1:1-15, Ezekiel 30:1-5, Jeremiah 9:22, Ezekiel 21:1-7, Isaiah 17:1

But the Lord will be a refuge for His righteous people. Psalms 62:5-8, Zephaniah 2:3

..shade from the heat, they; withdraw for a little while,– take shelter from the fire reserved for His enemies, a huge Coronal Mass Ejection fireball, that will destroy them.

Isaiah 30:26-30, Proverbs 3:25-26, Zephaniah 3:8, 2 Peter 3:7

 

Then: a righteous nation enters, Matthew 21:43, into all of the holy Land area, as promised to the Patriarchs, by descent or grafted in by faith. Galatians 3:36-29 They will live in the new country of Beulah in peace and prosperity. Isaiah 62:1-5, Isaiah 35:1-10, Ezekiel 34:11-31, Jeremiah 31:10-14, Isaiah 27:6, Ezekiel 28:24-26, Romans 9:24-26

They are all the faithful Christians from every race, nation and language, Isaiah 66:18b-21, Revelation 7:9, who will fulfill their destiny to be a light to the nations and His witnesses to the world. Isaiah 43:10-12, John 15:27, Isaiah 66:19, Isaiah 49:8

Your dead will rise again This happens later, Jesus will bring the souls of the dead martyrs with Him at His Return. Revelation 6:9-11, Revelation 20:4 and then, after the Millennium. all who have ever lived will stand before God in Judgement. Revelation 20:11-15

                                                                                 

[Keras]

12 hours ago, transmogrified said:

Do these scriptures refer to the same trumpet?

No.

Your four quotes all refer to the Return of Jesus for His thousand year reign on earth. 

[transmogrified]

8 hours ago, Keras said:

20 hours ago, transmogrified said:

Do these scriptures refer to the same trumpet?

No.

Your four quotes all refer to the Return of Jesus for His thousand year reign on earth. 

So these are four different trumpets that sound at the Second Coming?

[transmogrified]

8 hours ago, Keras said:

Your dead will rise again This happens later, Jesus will bring the souls of the dead martyrs with Him at His Return. Revelation 6:9-11, Revelation 20:4 and then, after the Millennium. all who have ever lived will stand before God in Judgement. Revelation 20:11-15

According to the above quote, 'your dead' that will rise again would refer to the souls of the dead martyrs, (saints) that are resurrected at the Second Coming and also to those (saints) who would be resurrected at the end of the 1000 years...am I correct?

[Keras]

2 hours ago, transmogrified said:

So these are four different trumpets that sound at the Second Coming?

No.  It will be the same Trumpet, that announces the Return of Jesus. 

2 hours ago, transmogrified said:

According to the above quote, 'your dead' that will rise again would refer to the souls of the dead martyrs, (saints) that are resurrected at the Second Coming and also to those (saints) who would be resurrected at the end of the 1000 years...am I correct?

Yes,  Revelation 20:4 is crystal clear: ONLY the martyrs killed during the 42 month period of world control by the 'beast', will be resurrected when Jesus Returns.      Note' they do not receive immortality then and like Lazarus; they may die again.   But their second death has no power over them, because their names are Written in the Book of Life'

Everyone who has ever lived will rise to stand before God, after the Millennium.  Those whose names are in the BoL, will receive immortality, the rest; annihilation. 

[transmogrified]

3 hours ago, transmogrified said:

On 2/12/2022 at 1:11 PM, transmogrified said:

Do these scriptures refer to the same trumpet?

No.

Your four quotes all refer to the Return of Jesus for His thousand year reign on earth. 

So I am not sure of the above response...it was said that these four trumpets were not all the same trumpet. But then the next post stated they all referred to the same trumpet:

1 hour ago, Keras said:

3 hours ago, transmogrified said:

So these are four different trumpets that sound at the Second Coming?

No.  It will be the same Trumpet, that announces the Return of Jesus. 

Why was it stated they were not all the same trumpet in the first post?