Has anyone ever noticed this.

[john1]

Is this why it's possible to prove anything with the bible, if you don't know it well.

2 Samuel chapter 14 verse 27

NIV Three sons and a daughter were born to Absalom. His daughter’s name was Tamar, and she became a beautiful woman.

KJV To Absalom were born three sons, and one daughter whose name was Tamar. She was a woman of beautiful appearance.

2 Samuel chapter 18 verse 18

NIV During his lifetime Absalom had taken a pillar and erected it in the King’s Valley as a monument to himself, for he thought, “I have no son to carry on the memory of my name.” He named the pillar after himself, and it is called Absalom’s Monument to this day.

KJV Now Absalom in his lifetime had taken and reared up for himself a pillar, which is in the king's dale: for he said, I have no son to keep my name in remembrance: and he called the pillar after his own name: and it is called unto this day, Absalom's place.

[other one]

Absalom's 4 children all died before he did.   It seems to me that at the time chapter 18 is talking about, his sons had all died as a punishment for his having set fire to a field of grain belonging to Joab. so he did not have a son to carry on the memory of his name.

[john1]

21 minutes ago, other one said:

Absalom's 4 children all died before he did.

That would explain it, but where do you get a record of that, and are you saying Joab killed them, because it was Absalom's servants that set it on fire.

[other one]

2 hours ago, john1 said:

That would explain it, but where do you get a record of that, and are you saying Joab killed them, because it was Absalom's servants that set it on fire.

Writings in Talmud or the Midrash,  I'm not sure which.

[grahampaul]

3 hours ago, john1 said:

That would explain it, but where do you get a record of that, and are you saying Joab killed them, because it was Absalom's servants that set it on fire.

in Rabbinic literature it mentions his sons and daughter were killed for setting the corn alig

  some say he made the pillar because he had no children at that time to carry on hi name. and wished to be remembered'  his children being born after.

 

[appy]

As we read from 2 Samuel, chapter 13 through 18, we learn that Absalom feared he would be forgotten, and attempted to memorialize his name, because he had no male heir to carry on the family name. As we read, we discover that he did have sons at some point. The sons names are not listed, because it very likely they died at a very early age. However, the author's intention was not to point out discrepancies, but to show that Abijah's mother was from the line of Absalom.

There are three Tamar's mentioned in scripture. The one mentioned in 2 Samuel 14 : 27 is the daughter of Absalom. Very little is said about her. Other than that she, like her aunt was very attractive and was married to Rehoboam, the son of Solomon. Rehoboam and Tamar daughter of Absalom, had a son whose name was Abijah who took the throne after his father died.

If there is other information than this, it is from outside of scripture.  

[BibleStudent100]

12 hours ago, john1 said:

Is this why it's possible to prove anything with the bible, if you don't know it well.

2 Samuel chapter 14 verse 27

NIV Three sons and a daughter were born to Absalom. His daughter’s name was Tamar, and she became a beautiful woman.

KJV To Absalom were born three sons, and one daughter whose name was Tamar. She was a woman of beautiful appearance.

2 Samuel chapter 18 verse 18

NIV During his lifetime Absalom had taken a pillar and erected it in the King’s Valley as a monument to himself, for he thought, “I have no son to carry on the memory of my name.” He named the pillar after himself, and it is called Absalom’s Monument to this day.

KJV Now Absalom in his lifetime had taken and reared up for himself a pillar, which is in the king's dale: for he said, I have no son to keep my name in remembrance: and he called the pillar after his own name: and it is called unto this day, Absalom's place.

Yes, there are three Tamar’s mentioned in the Bible (four if you count the city of Tamar—See 1Kings 9:17-19).  As we all know, having sons to carry on the “lineage” or family name was of great importance to people during Bible times.  It appears that Absalom’s three sons mentioned at 2 Samuel 14:27 had died when young.  Absalom erected a pillar in the Low Plain of the King near Jerusalem because of having no sons to keep his name alive after his death.  Absalom was not buried at that pillar, but rather was left in a hollow in the forest of Ephraim (See 2 Samuel 18: 6, 17).

[Deborah_]

12 hours ago, john1 said:

That would explain it, but where do you get a record of that, and are you saying Joab killed them, because it was Absalom's servants that set it on fire.

Child mortality was pretty high at that time, and it was nothing unusual for 3 out of 4 children in a family to die young. So common that it wouldn't be considered worthy of special mention.

The idea that it was "as a punishment for setting Joab's field on fire" is Jewish tradition, not in Scripture. So it's hard to know how accurate that is. If true, presumably the "punishment" was handed out by God (in the form of early death from infection or other disease) - Joab himself wouldn't necessarily have had anything to do with it.

[Ray12614]

All we know from the Bible is at the time his sons were not living.

Of course, there could be alternative theories :

1. They were abducted by aliens and flown to Mars.

2. When Abraham parted the Red Sea on the way back to Egypt the sons stuck their hands in the walls of water and sharks ate them.

3. They were sold into slavery by their mother, and ended up before Pharaoh ? ? ?

Kidding . . .  sorry . . . 

The theories are endless . . . but one thing is for sure, at the time Absalom had no living sons . . . 

[TheBlade]

Well sure if you don't know it well. But for me its "how was it originally written" and context and who what where blah blah blah. Oh then what org Greek or Hebrew are we looking at. Be so WONDERFUL if there was only one everyone used but..