Can a follower of Christ be police officer or judge? (Part 2)

[Leonardo Von]

Can a follower of Christ be police officer or judge? (Part 2)

But, why not?

One of the reasons can be seen below:

•    Rom 2:1 -> “Therefore you have no excuse, O man, every one of you who judges. For in passing judgment on another you condemn yourself, because you, the judge, practice the very same things.”.

When someone is punishing the other, he is being an evildoer too. And Peter made it clear:

•    1Pe 3:9-12 -> “Do not repay evil for evil or reviling for reviling, but on the contrary, bless, for to this you were called, that you may obtain a blessing. For “Whoever desires to love life and see good days, let him keep his tongue from evil and his lips from speaking deceit; let him turn away from evil and do good; let him seek peace and pursue it. For the eyes of the Lord are on the righteous, and his ears are open to their prayer. But the face of the Lord is against those who do evil.” “.

Paul too:

•    Col 3:25 -> “For the wrongdoer will be paid back for the wrong he has done, and there is no partiality.”.

Not to mention Jesus:

•    Mat 26:52 -> “Then Jesus said to him, “Put your sword back into its place. For all who take the sword will perish by the sword.”

Perhaps you are questioning: “but the evil needs to be reprobated, combatted. Otherwise, the evil will spread”. And will we do evil in order to produce something good? If to come the good is necessary to use the arms of condemnation and death (as it was in the Old Testament – 2Cor 3:7-9), so all that Christ did in the cross was in vain, including His outcry:

•    Luk 23:34 -> “And Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do.” And they cast lots to divide his garments.”.

Besides, see what Paul said about bringing the good through the use of evil:

•    Rom 3:8 -> “And why not do evil that good may come?—as some people slanderously charge us with saying. Their condemnation is just.”.

And what about us? What should we do? Tomorrow we will answer this. For the time being, have a good day in the job that delights Jesus.

[Daniel Marsh]

None of those texts apply to the topic at all brother, freind.

 

Judges 2:16
Then the Lord chose leaders called judges. These leaders saved the Israelites from the enemies who took their possessions.

In Deuteronomy 16:18-20, Moses instructs the people of Israel to appoint judges

Romans 13 supports Police

"God is a God of justice (Deuteronomy 32:4) and He instructs His people to pursue justice (Deuteronomy 16:20). "Give justice to the weak and the fatherless; maintain the right of the afflicted and the destitute. Rescue the weak and the needy; deliver them from the hand of the wicked" (Psalm 82:3–4)."

https://www.compellingtruth.org/Christian-law-enforcement.html

New Testament
Matthew 8:5-13; Luke 7:1-10 - Roman officer of Capernaum: Jesus healed servant
Matthew 27:54; Luke 23:47 - Roman officer at the cross
Matthew 27:65 - Police at tomb
Mark 15:16 - Military police from the palace
Luke 3:14 - Honest police
Luke 22:52 - Temple police
John 7:45 - Temple police
John 18:12 - Military police
Acts 4:1 - Military police over the Temple (captain of the guard)
Acts 9:2 - Saul: special deputy
Acts 10 - Cornelius: chief of police
Acts 16:22-30 - Jailer (corrections officer): asks the most important question in the Bible
Acts 16:35 - Court officers
Acts 17:9 - Bonding practice
Acts 17:31 - Jesus as the Supreme Judge
Acts 21:31-32 - Riot police, military police
Acts 24:1 - Tertullus: lawyer (bought and paid for)
Acts 24:22 - Claudius Lysias: police commander in charge of Jerusalem
Acts 25:3 - Festus: in charge of the police, both civilian and military
Acts 27:1-3 - Julius: captain of the imperial regiment
Acts 28:16 - Paul's house arrest
Romans 13:1-5 - Where law enforcement gets its authority
2 Corinthians 10:4 - Heavenly weapons available to Christian police
Ephesians 6:10-20 - Protective gear
Philippians 1:12 - Corrections officer guarding Paul, palace police
Philippians 4:21 - Palace personnel, palace police among them

https://www.fcpo.org/114.30/law-enforcement-in-the-scriptures

 

Romans 13:4 - For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.

 

 

 

 

[Daniel Marsh]

Exodus 22:2 ►
 
New International Version
“If a thief is caught breaking in at night and is struck a fatal blow, the defender is not guilty of bloodshed;

New Living Translation
“If a thief is caught in the act of breaking into a house and is struck and killed in the process, the person who killed the thief is not guilty of murder.

English Standard Version
If a thief is found breaking in and is struck so that he dies, there shall be no bloodguilt for him,

[Daniel Marsh]

 
Gen 14:14
 
When Abram heard that his nephew had been taken captive, he mobilized his 318 trained men who had been born in his household, and he pursued the invaders as far as Dan.

 

[The_Patriot21]

His entire point was refuted in part 1. 

[OneLight]

51 minutes ago, The_Patriot21 said:

His entire point was refuted in part 1. 

Yet, he continues onto part 3 ...

[The_Patriot21]

15 minutes ago, OneLight said:

Yet, he continues onto part 3 ...

Indeed. The monologue continues. What amazes me is that he continues to post these huge long posts sharing his view, expecting people to read it, and doesnt even have the courtesy to read and reply to those who actually took the time to read and respond to said monologues.

I mean correct me if im wrong...but wernt forums designed for discussion? If one doesnt want discussion they can create a blog.

[OneLight]

4 minutes ago, The_Patriot21 said:

Indeed. The monologue continues. What amazes me is that he continues to post these huge long posts sharing his view, expecting people to read it, and doesnt even have the courtesy to read and reply to those who actually took the time to read and respond to said monologues.

I mean correct me if im wrong...but wernt forums designed for discussion? If one doesnt want discussion they can create a blog.

When he first came back after being absent for a few years, I ask him why he does not reply.  I never received an answer so I know his focus was on his message and not any form of a discussion.  Now and then you will see a reply, but that is rare.

I can remember a time when teaching was only allowed by those in ministry, which still allowed for other views to be presented and discussed, but it seems anyone with bad theologies , and who fancies themselves a teacher, can come and spew their theology as much as they want.  When George first allowed such threads it was with the idea that those who posted bad theology would be corrected by those with good theology, but all this has allowed is more arguments and hardening of hearts because not only do you use scripture to disprove their ideas, but by doing so, you hurt their pride and the walls go up and the arrows start to fly.  Time to rethink how this should be handled.

[The_Patriot21]

17 hours ago, OneLight said:

When he first came back after being absent for a few years, I ask him why he does not reply.  I never received an answer so I know his focus was on his message and not any form of a discussion.  Now and then you will see a reply, but that is rare.

I can remember a time when teaching was only allowed by those in ministry, which still allowed for other views to be presented and discussed, but it seems anyone with bad theologies , and who fancies themselves a teacher, can come and spew their theology as much as they want.  When George first allowed such threads it was with the idea that those who posted bad theology would be corrected by those with good theology, but all this has allowed is more arguments and hardening of hearts because not only do you use scripture to disprove their ideas, but by doing so, you hurt their pride and the walls go up and the arrows start to fly.  Time to rethink how this should be handled.

I agree. These posts are more akin to spam/trolling then they do anything edifying.

[Starise]

I do question whether podiatrists and proctologists can be followers of Christ. 

Cake decorators and truck drivers might slide in there by a close margin.