The alive and remaining are changed - doesn't that mean all the rest died?

[DeighAnn]

38 minutes ago, Josheb said:

WHICH I HAD POSTED WAS OK.  

[DeighAnn]

38 minutes ago, Josheb said:

Prove it. 

HERE WE ARE.

[DeighAnn]

25 minutes ago, Josheb said:

Who here knows why David di not have to pay taxes before taking the throne?

Expected no less.

[George]

9 minutes ago, Josheb said:

Charles Spurgeon

https://archive.spurgeon.org/misc/eschat2.php

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(The Treasury of David and Matthew: The Gospel of the Kingdom) and his other writings reveal that he consistently and clearly not only affirmed a historic or covenantal premillennial position; he also rejected the salient tenets of the amillennial, postmillennial and dispensational premillennial schemes. 

Another quote ...

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This it will be observed that all Israel's hopes were based on the four determinative covenants [Abrahamic, Davidic, Palestinian and New] which God made with them, that these covenants confirmed certain national hopes and blessings and necessitate the preservation, continuity, and restoration of the nation if they are to be fulfilled literally.[26]

... and this

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.I think we do not attach sufficient importance to the restoration of the Jews. We do not think enough about it. But certainly, if there is anything promised in the Bible it is this. I imagine that you cannot read the Bible without seeing clearly that there is to be an actual restoration of the Children of Israel . . . For when the Jews are restored, the fullness of the Gentiles shall be gathered in; and as soon as they return, then Jesus will come upon Mount Zion with his ancients gloriously, and the halcyon days of the millennium shall then dawn; we shall then know every man to be a brother and a friend; Christ shall rule with universal sway.

I think you better study what Spurgeon actually taught!

[George]

11 minutes ago, Josheb said:

Polycarp

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The eastern Church, where Polycarp ministered, continued the Apostolic tradition of celebrating the Feasts of Israel and the Sabbath. It is not that these were mandated, but simply revered.  

So great was the eastern Church’s respect for the Feasts of Israel and the Sabbath that they actually accepted excommunication from what was rapidly becoming the recognized world Catholic Church - the one Church, because the Romanized version of the Catholic Church not only revered Sunday, as the day of Christ’s resurrection, but actually required the Church to turn away from everything Jewish, including the Sabbath and Feasts, and required Sunday attendance for the gathering of the saints.

 

You better study up on what Polycarp actually taught!  Attached file on Polycarp!

polycarp.pdf

[George]

27 minutes ago, Josheb said:

Eusebius

Eusebius was instrumental in the rise of the Catholic church (Constantine and the Christian Empire) and the council of Nicaea  ... which led to the DARK AGES and the times of the. inquisition whereby millions of true believers were slaughtered for their faith.

Try again!

[George]

30 minutes ago, Josheb said:

Luther

His writings at the end of this life were so antisemitic quoted by Hitler that led to the slaughter of millions of Jews!  

The Nazis Exploited Martin Luther’s Legacy. This Berlin Exhibit Highlights How. _ Sojourners.pdf

[DeighAnn]

10 minutes ago, Josheb said:

Not without first acknowledging it all happens while he is enthroned in heaven. 

HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO stop, and state the basics again in the middle of a thought?  WHY the need to bring it up now?  TO BE RIGHT? 

Who in the thread is presumed to have just forgotten the omniscience of GOD and so it needs to be brought up again?  Who is presumed to not always heed that very knowledge?  Why is it we have to be reminded of it whenever FACTS go against  certain someones doctrines?  

OK, YES, ALL THE BIBLE TAKES PLACE FROM THE ETERNAL ASPECT OF THE ETERNAL KNOWING and being in charge and being from the beginning and being seated and being in control and....................................................................................... ............................etc infinity.  

Now can we get back to the discussion at hand.  

[George]

9 minutes ago, Josheb said:

Those are serious question asked out of a sincere desire to know and understand your views. I was accused of not understanding from your point of view. Here's your opportunity. 

Spurgeon taught on the Kingdom. 

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"If I read the word aright, and it is honest to admit that there is much room for difference of opinion here, the day will come, when the Lord Jesus will descend from heaven with a shout, with the trump of the archangel and the voice of God. Some think that this descent of the Lord will be post-millennial — that is, after the thousand years of his reign. I cannot think so. I conceive that the advent will be PRE-millennial — that he will come first; and then will come the millennium as the result of his personal reign upon earth. But whether or no, this much is the fact, that Christ will suddenly come, come to reign, and come to judge the earth in righteousness." [from Justification & Glory MTP Vol 11, Year 1865, pg. 249, Romans 8:30

Another ....

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"We are to expect the literal advent of Jesus Christ, for he himself by his angel told us, 'This same Jesus which is taken up from you into heaven shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven,' which must mean literally and in person. We expect a reigning Christ on earth; that seems to us to be very plain, and to be put so literally that we dare not spiritualise it. We anticipate a first and a second resurrection; a first resurrection of the righteous, and a second resurrection of the ungodly, who shall be judged, condemned, and punished for ever by the sentence of the great King." [from Things to Come MTP Vol 15, Year 1869, pg. 329, 1 Corinthians 3:22 

@Josheb Do you disagree with Spurgeon's assessment?

[George]

polycarp.pdf

From my research files.