First Resurrection, is it of Time Place or Rank?

[truth7t7]

1 hour ago, Your closest friendnt said:

Do you have scriptures as your foundation, because no where in the bible I have find anything like wise, only to the contrary.

Paul never said that he is looking forwards to have a body like Jesus and live on earth. 

John never said that also.

Jesus never said that also.

No one of the disciples said that...

So why you want the impossible to have your earthly body back, you want to have children? 

We Disagree, the future "Glorified" bodily resurrection, is a foundational pillar in Christian orthodoxy and faith 

PS: The Glorified body received, will be in the New Heaven and Earth, after this earth is dissolved by fire in final judgement at the Lord's return, 2 Peter 3:10-13, Revelation 21:1-5

1 John 3:2KJV

2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

Luke 24:39KJV

39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

1 Corinthians 15:12-20KJV

12 Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?

13 But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:

14 And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.

15 Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.

16 For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised:

17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.

18 Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished.

19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.

20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.

Edited April 21, 2022 by truth7t7

[Sister]

6 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said:

Jesus Christ said I am also the resurrection and he kept his word and he took them out from the place of the dead and to their knew home, the Heavenly one.

YCF

Thank you.  I have not been on this site for a long time as I have not been able to post until just a few days ago.  All in God's hands.  Plenty of time to study, excercise self control and take notice of the state of the world which has gone mad.  Can't help but feel we are in the end times as prophesied at the stage of the black horse where food is going scarce and prices rising, ...it will only get worse, and then we have the pale horse coming, the False Prophet who will carry out his mission exactly as prophesied.  I have not read all 34 pages of this thread.  Obviously the OP has not found her answer or else the thread would of finished a long time ago, but then again, people like to argue forever and when pride is lifted up it spits out poison.  All this knowledge and wisdom in understanding the scriptures means nothing if the inside of the cup is not clean.  Now I answered the OP's question based on exactly what she asked.  Did I do wrong?  did I answer not in truth?  Obviously there is more to her question, so I guess I will have to read the whole 34 pages to understand the whole argument.  No thanks.

Sometimes, it helps if we give reference to a scripture so any new comers can know exactly what is being discussed. You have not given scripture either, so I could answer you something different to what you are talking about.  Please give scripture to that last quote if it's pertaining to this thread.  That's all I ask.  Have a blessed day.

 

[DeighAnn]

 

3 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

It appears you deny a future "bodily resurrection" of those that have "physically Died" in faith

As in a 'last day for SAVED believers who never die being part of the  'DEAD resurrecting'?  yes I do deny.  



I started this thread.  You commented, I responded.   You commented again, I responded.   You commented again, I responded. 

IF you have some sort of WISH to make a LAST COMMENT and NOT have me respond, THEN you would need to make those wishes known.  Otherwise, I will keep responding.  I'm pretty sure that how a thread is supposed to work.  



 

[DeighAnn]

John 6:47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on Me hath everlasting life.

John 6:48 I am that bread of life.

John 6:49 Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead.

(but SOON the graves will be opening and they will be dead no longer, having heard the GOOD NEWS and will ascend with Him)

John 6:50 This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die.

John 6:51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.


 

John 6:53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.

John 6:54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.

(WHEN is it would would need to be 'raised up'?  on the last day in an earthen veseel?  That is the subject being discussed, is it not?  Has the END OF THE WORLD been mentioned?  The end of the age?  NO. The end of tribulation?  NO.  The ending of life in the flesh body?  YES.  CAN WE HERE ASSIGN AN END OF AGE 'LAST DAY' OR WOULD THAT BE COMPLETELY OUT OF CONTEXT?)

John 6:55 For My flesh is meat indeed, and My blood is drink indeed.

John 6:56 He that eateth My flesh, and drinketh My blood, dwelleth in Me, and I in him.

IF JESUS DWELL IN US AND WE ARE 'OUR FLESH', then wouldn't that be like saying Jesus dies and goes into the grave again?  


 

John 6:57 As the living Father hath sent Me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by Me.

John 6:58 This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.

 

John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing:

the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.


 

John 7:37 In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto Me, and drink.

John 7:38 He that believeth on Me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.

John 7:39 (But this spake He of the Spirit, which they that believe on Him should receive: for the Holy SPIRIT was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)

 

John 8:19 Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known Me, ye should have known my Father also.

John 8:20 These words spake Jesus in the treasury, as he taught in the temple: and no man laid hands on him; for his hour was not yet come.

John 8:21 Then said Jesus again unto them, I go my way, and ye shall seek me, and shall die in your sins: whither I go, ye cannot come.
 

John 8:23 And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.

John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.


 

 

John 8:49 Jesus answered, I have not a devil; but I honour my Father, and ye do dishonour me.

John 8:50 And I seek not mine own glory: there is one that seeketh and judgeth.

John 8:51 Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.