The Tree of Life

[JohnR7]

12 hours ago, Michael37 said:

Being Omniscient God knows everything,

What is the Hebrew word for "Omniscient"? Isaiah 43 "

Isaiah 43 I, yes I, am He who blots out your transgressions for My own sake and remembers your sins no more.

He does not know everything if He does not remember our sins. 

[Riverwalker]

16 minutes ago, JohnR7 said:

What is the Hebrew word for "Omniscient"? Isaiah 43 "

Isaiah 43 I, yes I, am He who blots out your transgressions for My own sake and remembers your sins no more.

He does not know everything if He does not remember our sins. 

The word for remember there is Ezkor (root word Zakor) meaning" Bring to my rememberance"  this does not mean God doesn't know our sins, He just has filed them away and will not bring them up again...because they are forgiven

 

Psalm 139:2-3
You know when I sit down and when I rise up;
You understand my thought from afar.
You scrutinize my path and my lying down,
And are intimately acquainted with all my ways.

 

Edited April 4, 2022 by Riverwalker

[Michael37]

8 hours ago, Dennis1209 said:

Before we delve into the “leaves”, can we reason the first question above and proceed from there?

You seem to have made up your mind that partaking of the Tree of Life is a one of snack rather than a continuous regular feeding. I believe the latter.

The discussion of Rev 22.2 is about the leaves of the tree of life being for the healing (Gr. therapeia) of the nations, symbolising the eternal state of ongoing relief from memories of former Gentile alienation from God.   

Strongs G2322
θεραπεία
therapeia
ther-ap-i'-ah
From G2323; attendance (specifically medical, that is, cure); figuratively and collectively domestics: - healing, household.
Total KJV occurrences: 4

[Michael37]

2 hours ago, JohnR7 said:

What is the Hebrew word for "Omniscient"? Isaiah 43 "

Isaiah 43 I, yes I, am He who blots out your transgressions for My own sake and remembers your sins no more.

He does not know everything if He does not remember our sins. 

Yes, in His Omnipotence God can do anything He pleases.

Regarding His Omniscience, the salient point here is that God knows about our sins and makes provision accordingly.

Psa 69:5  O God, You know my foolishness; And my sins are not hidden from You.

Pro 15:3  The eyes of the LORD are in every place, Keeping watch on the evil and the good.

Joh 1:29  The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, "Behold! The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!

1Pe 1:17-21  And if you call on the Father, who without partiality judges according to each one's work, conduct yourselves throughout the time of your stay here in fear;  (18)  knowing that you were not redeemed with corruptible things, like silver or gold, from your aimless conduct received by tradition from your fathers,  (19)  but with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot.  (20)  He indeed was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you  (21)  who through Him believe in God, who raised Him from the dead and gave Him glory, so that your faith and hope are in God.
 

 

[Dennis1209]

57 minutes ago, Michael37 said:

You seem to have made up your mind that partaking of the Tree of Life is a one of snack rather than a continuous regular feeding. I believe the latter.

If I had my mind made up, I'd be implying "thus Saith Dennis." A good lawyer will not ask a question unless he already knows the answer and truth. I'm not that lawyer.

I want to gather other opinions and compare them with my thoughts, and question how they arrived at their view, based on the same scripture we all share. Then evaluate my own thinking and understanding. Make sense?

[Michael37]

1 hour ago, Golds and Blues said:

Hmm the thought of 12 manner of leaves piques a curiosity.

There have been some issues over the translation and meaning of this passage but I like this one in which both the street and the River of Life flowing in its middle are encompassed by the Tree of Life on both sides. Wow! 

The Tree of Life bears 12 kinds of fruit, month after month, but there is no reason to believe there are 12 kinds of leaf. 

World English Bible

Rev 22:1-2  He showed me a river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb,  (2)  in the middle of its street. On this side of the river and on that was the tree of life, bearing twelve kinds of fruits, yielding its fruit every month. The leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

[Michael37]

3 hours ago, Dennis1209 said:

If I had my mind made up, I'd be implying "thus Saith Dennis." A good lawyer will not ask a question unless he already knows the answer and truth. I'm not that lawyer.

I want to gather other opinions and compare them with my thoughts, and question how they arrived at their view, based on the same scripture we all share. Then evaluate my own thinking and understanding. Make sense?

If I have put 2 and 2 together and got 5 I do apologise, but with the excuse that the OP quoted below made me do it . . .

On 4/4/2022 at 10:09 AM, Dennis1209 said:

I would like to hear your thoughts on the Tree of Life in the Garden of Eden. Some think it could be symbolic of Jesus, but I believe it is a literal tree-producing fruit. From that perspective, I am looking at it as an edible fruit-bearing tree giving eternal life and considering what John says about the twelve different fruits and the leaves healing the nations in Revelation.

The wording and implications in Genesis suggest that Adam & Eve never did partake of the Tree of Life, and there was only one tree forbidden to eat thereof, the tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil.

They were free to eat from the Tree of Life at their pleasure. Surely it was just as pleasing to the eye or more desirable than every other fruit tree in the Garden?

Why did Adam & Eve not partake in the Tree of Life? I realize they may not have had any concept of what death was. Statistically speaking, they should have eaten from it for various reasons. Unless they were not in the Garden long enough to get around to it?

The Lord goes into detail about singling out the two trees, and I would think Adam knew the Tree of Life must be something special.

Genesis 3:22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever: [emphasis mine]

Why did Adam not eat from the Tree of Life?

 

[Michael37]

5 hours ago, Golds and Blues said:

Have you considered the 12 manner of leaves as herbs to bread?

12×12

You are more likely to get a salad with that.

[Mike Mclees]

I have not considered the tree of life except that it represents eternal life in Gods heavenly kingdom with where sin does not exist or allowed to exist

However, I have had somewhat of a revelation of sorts about the tree of good and evil. We see that this tree represented both good and evil in the same tree. There is no good tree and an evil tree. Up to about a year ago I did not have any knowledge about the conscious mind. However it came to me that God gave us free will to make good and bad choices. The conscious mind is vast and no one can grasp it except I knew that both Good and evil comes from it just as the tree of good and evil. We still see the devastating results of mans error today. It has been with us from the beginning. and that's my two cents.