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What John was emphasizing at 1 John 2:19, was what Christ and the apostle Paul had earlier warned about to the members of the Christian congregation and of the religious leaders outside the congregation rejecting or not accepting what they taught. (Matthew 7:15; 2 Timothy 4:3, 4)  Such people were referred to as apostates or antichrists. (2 Thessalonians 2:3-5; 1 John 2:18; 2 John 7)  This is not inclusive to any one individual/s, but kingdoms, nations, and organizations are singularly shown to be part of the antichrist in the symbolic description at Revelations 17:8-15; 19:19-21.

     Just as what happens today, such was the same during the apostolic period.  Members of the Christian congregation were not fully committed, did not have a complete heart, and were not of like thinking.  Therefore, they eventually imposed their own philosophies and influenced others. (Matthew 24:4, 11; Luke 21:8; Acts 20:29; 2 Peter 2:1-3)  They abandoned or were expulsed from the congregation where they form destructive sects.  Compare Matthew 7:21-23; Mark 13:21, 22; Luke 13:24-27; 1 Corinthians 15:33; 2 Corinthians 6:14.

 


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3 hours ago, Markie51 said:

What John was emphasizing at 1 John 2:19, was what Christ and the apostle Paul had earlier warned about to the members of the Christian congregation and of the religious leaders outside the congregation rejecting or not accepting what they taught. (Matthew 7:15; 2 Timothy 4:3, 4)  Such people were referred to as apostates or antichrists. (2 Thessalonians 2:3-5; 1 John 2:18; 2 John 7)  This is not inclusive to any one individual/s, but kingdoms, nations, and organizations are singularly shown to be part of the antichrist in the symbolic description at Revelations 17:8-15; 19:19-21.

     Just as what happens today, such was the same during the apostolic period.  Members of the Christian congregation were not fully committed, did not have a complete heart, and were not of like thinking.  Therefore, they eventually imposed their own philosophies and influenced others. (Matthew 24:4, 11; Luke 21:8; Acts 20:29; 2 Peter 2:1-3)  They abandoned or were expulsed from the congregation where they form destructive sects.  Compare Matthew 7:21-23; Mark 13:21, 22; Luke 13:24-27; 1 Corinthians 15:33; 2 Corinthians 6:14.

 

From my understanding ,the christians who say Christ is come in the flesh are not antichrist.Ive never heard of a christian claiming Christ has not come nor have I ever heard a Christian deny Jesus is the Christ.

Can you give an example of a christian denying Jesus is the Christ?

1 John 4:1-

Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:

but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.

1 John 2:22

Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist—denying the Father and the Son.
 

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3 hours ago, Markie51 said:

What John was emphasizing at 1 John 2:19, was what Christ and the apostle Paul had earlier warned about to the members of the Christian congregation and of the religious leaders outside the congregation rejecting or not accepting what they taught. (Matthew 7:15; 2 Timothy 4:3, 4)  Such people were referred to as apostates or antichrists. (2 Thessalonians 2:3-5; 1 John 2:18; 2 John 7)  This is not inclusive to any one individual/s, but kingdoms, nations, and organizations are singularly shown to be part of the antichrist in the symbolic description at Revelations 17:8-15; 19:19-21.

     Just as what happens today, such was the same during the apostolic period.  Members of the Christian congregation were not fully committed, did not have a complete heart, and were not of like thinking.  Therefore, they eventually imposed their own philosophies and influenced others. (Matthew 24:4, 11; Luke 21:8; Acts 20:29; 2 Peter 2:1-3)  They abandoned or were expulsed from the congregation where they form destructive sects.  Compare Matthew 7:21-23; Mark 13:21, 22; Luke 13:24-27; 1 Corinthians 15:33; 2 Corinthians 6:14.

 

To me ,here are two prime examples of antichrists.They are two members of Israel's government who want to imprison anyone who shares the gospel.

https://anglican.ink/2023/03/24/united-torah-judaism-mks-urge-the-knesset-to-criminalize-christian-evangelism/

The law effectively prevents any form of evangelisation in the Holy Land starting “from a simple conversation about Jesus” to – widening the field – the production and publication of videos, articles or other forms of media explaining the Gospel. Moshe Gafni is chairman of the Knesset Finance Commission, a member of the Foreign Affairs and Defence Commission and of the Joint Defence Budget Commission, while Asher heads the Interior and Environment Commission. 

 

Seeing that Jesus has instructed that his servants preach the gospel to the lost sheep of the house of israel pretty much sends them straight to prison which is exactly what prophecy says will happen to them in Israel.

Just imagine what will happen in Israel for just sharing the gospel or the word of God.

Daniel 11:33-35

Wise leaders will give instruction to many, but these teachers will die by fire and sword, or they will be jailed and robbed.

During these persecutions, little help will arrive, and many who join them will not be sincere.

And some of the wise will fall victim to persecution. In this way, they will be refined and cleansed and made pure until the time of the end, for the appointed time is still to come.

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