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10 minutes ago, George said:

You have to have a sacrifice FIRST.  :)

Who is setting up the sacrifice?  And why?  How is it set up? Answer this...then it will unlock the rest.

Israelis already make sacrifices. 

The sacrifice israel makes are thier children. They are given to thier goverment at the age of 18.In modern terms it is called THE DRAFT.. . 

A military shall be given to Israel so that this sacrifice to Moloch(semetic for king) can be abolished. 

I don't expect anyone in Israel to raise a big fuss about this. :)

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1 hour ago, Shilohsfoal said:

The norths armed forces don't just destroy egypt. It will destroy everything from Iran to Egypt. The entire promised land will be cleaned out from the euphrates to the Nile. The only people left will be those who's names were written. Those who are saved on that day. 

Did you notice that you just set up the borders of the Gog / Magog war?  Do you realize that you just said that the A/C wipes out Islamic nations?

The reason that the A/C is believed to be the "Messiah" by the Jewish people in the beginning of the Trib is because he waged war against their enemies, established the "promised" land from the Nile to the Euphrates and then builds the Temple.

Start thinking from the standpoint of Israel ... what are the Jews expecting?  Why do they fall for the AntiChrist at the beginning?   

Why does Egypt cry out to the Lord because of the oppressors? 

 

Isa 19:20  It will be a sign and a witness to the LORD of hosts in the land of Egypt. When they cry to the LORD because of oppressors, he will send them a savior and defender, and deliver them. 

Isa 19:21  And the LORD will make himself known to the Egyptians, and the Egyptians will know the LORD in that day and worship with sacrifice and offering, and they will make vows to the LORD and perform them. 

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1 hour ago, Shilohsfoal said:

The king of the south is.

The King of the South and the "kingdom of the South" is wiped out by the King of the North.  How can the King of the South ... be the AntiChrist?  Think about it.

Rev 13:4  And they worshiped the dragon, for he had given his authority to the beast, and they worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like the beast, and who can fight against it?” 

Rev 13:5  And the beast was given a mouth uttering haughty and blasphemous words, and it was allowed to exercise authority for forty-two months. 

Rev 13:6  It opened its mouth to utter blasphemies against God, blaspheming his name and his dwelling, that is, those who dwell in heaven. 

Rev 13:7  Also it was allowed to make war on the saints and to conquer them. And authority was given it over every tribe and people and language and nation, 

Read the passage in Daniel 11 ---

Dan 11:36  “And the king shall do as he wills. He shall exalt himself and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak astonishing things against the God of gods. He shall prosper till the indignation is accomplished; for what is decreed shall be done. 

Dan 11:37  He shall pay no attention to the gods of his fathers, or to the one beloved by women. He shall not pay attention to any other god, for he shall magnify himself above all. 

Dan 11:38  He shall honor the god of fortresses instead of these. A god whom his fathers did not know he shall honor with gold and silver, with precious stones and costly gifts. 

Dan 11:39  He shall deal with the strongest fortresses with the help of a foreign god. Those who acknowledge him he shall load with honor. He shall make them rulers over many and shall divide the land for a price. 

Dan 11:40  “At the time of the end, the king of the south shall attack him,

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1 hour ago, Shilohsfoal said:

And all the Muslims throughout all the nations that attacked Jerusalem will say who is like the beast, who can make war with it because they believe they have destroyed the dajjal and his military. They believe the world will convert to Islam as the hadith says. 

I'm sorry... Islam is getting ready to be wiped out.  It's being done so that they can return to the Lord.   Be blessed.

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50 minutes ago, Dennis1209 said:

What are your thoughts on this, George? It pertains to the timing of these wars and invasions. Do you think all the seal judgments are constrained within the Tribulation? The Tribulation is defined as beginning when the Beast confirms a seven-year covenant with Israel and the many.

I believe the way to read Revelation is in the context of how you read Genesis.

In Genesis 1 -- you have a table of contents ... 7 days of creation.

Genesis 2 -- you have a focus on the 6th day creation and the creation of man specifically.

Genesis 3 -- the fall of man and God's plan of redemption laid out.

So you have a table of contents ... then you have details laid out.

So try to look at it like a microscope.  You start out in 2x magnification with the Seals. 

Within the 7th SEAL -- you turn the magnification to 10x magnification ... within the 7th seal, you have the 7 Trumpets ... turn the magnification to 50x magnification ... you get the 7 seals within the 7th Trumpet ... So within the 7th Seal you have all of the Trumpets and all the Vial judgements.  

I hope that makes sense ... it's hard to explain, but if you study the parallels you will start seeing common themes and similar terminology.

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16 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

Israelis already make sacrifices. 

The sacrifice israel makes are thier children. They are given to thier goverment at the age of 18.In modern terms it is called THE DRAFT

I love your zeal, but it's way out of context of the passage and your trying to assert events into the passage that never should be.

Read Isaiah 66 and you'll understand what they are going to sacrifice...

Isa 66:1  Thus says the LORD: “Heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool; what is the house that you would build for me, and what is the place of my rest? 

Isa 66:2  All these things my hand has made, and so all these things came to be, declares the LORD. But this is the one to whom I will look: he who is humble and contrite in spirit and trembles at my word. 

Isa 66:3  He who kills an ox is is as if he killed a man; he who sacrifices a lamb is as if he broke a dog's neck; he who offers an offering is as if he offered swine's blood; he who burns incense is as if he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delights in their abominations. 

Isa 66:4  I also will choose the things that delude them, and I will bring their fears on them, because I called, no one answered; when I spoke, they did not hear. But they did evil before My eyes and chose that in which I did not delight. 

This is a picture of the abomination of desolation ... as well as the great delusion in 2 Thes 2!

Be blessed,

George

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@Dennis1209  I'll give you an example of how the seals, trumpets, and vials connect.

Rev 11:15  And the seventh angel sounded. And there were great voices in Heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of His Christ. And He will reign forever and ever.  ...

Rev 11:19  And the temple of God was opened in Heaven, and there was seen in His temple the ark of His covenant, and there occurred lightnings and voices, and thunders and an earthquake, and a great hail.

... the 7th Trumpet is connected to the 7th Vial.  Look at the terminology.

 

Rev 16:17  And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air. And a great voice came out of the temple of Heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done! 

Rev 16:18  And voices and thunders and lightnings occurred. And there was a great earthquake, such as has not been since men were on the earth, so mighty and so great an earthquake. 

Rev 16:21  And a great hail, as the size of a talent, came down out of the heaven on men. And men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague of it was exceedingly great. 

So you see this magnification effect ... does this make sense?

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13 minutes ago, George said:

The King of the South and the "kingdom of the South" is wiped out by the King of the North.  How can the King of the South ... be the AntiChrist?  Think about it.

Rev 13:4  And they worshiped the dragon, for he had given his authority to the beast, and they worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like the beast, and who can fight against it?” 

Rev 13:5  And the beast was given a mouth uttering haughty and blasphemous words, and it was allowed to exercise authority for forty-two months. 

Rev 13:6  It opened its mouth to utter blasphemies against God, blaspheming his name and his dwelling, that is, those who dwell in heaven. 

Rev 13:7  Also it was allowed to make war on the saints and to conquer them. And authority was given it over every tribe and people and language and nation, 

Read the passage in Daniel 11 ---

Dan 11:36  “And the king shall do as he wills. He shall exalt himself and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak astonishing things against the God of gods. He shall prosper till the indignation is accomplished; for what is decreed shall be done. 

Dan 11:37  He shall pay no attention to the gods of his fathers, or to the one beloved by women. He shall not pay attention to any other god, for he shall magnify himself above all. 

Dan 11:38  He shall honor the god of fortresses instead of these. A god whom his fathers did not know he shall honor with gold and silver, with precious stones and costly gifts. 

Dan 11:39  He shall deal with the strongest fortresses with the help of a foreign god. Those who acknowledge him he shall load with honor. He shall make them rulers over many and shall divide the land for a price. 

Dan 11:40  “At the time of the end, the king of the south shall attack him,

Be blessed,

George

The king of the north does not wipe out the middle east till the day of the Lord. That's when the norths armed forces use the abomination that causes desolation. 

After the king of the south attacks the king of the north in Daniel 11:40.The king of the north wipes out the middle east. 

https://biblehub.com/daniel/11-44.htm

According to Daniel, "AT THAT Time" His people are delivered, everyone found written. 

https://biblehub.com/daniel/12-1.htm

This is the time Jesus said would be great tribulation as Daniel says in Daniel 12:1.

There won't be a beast after this day of the Lord. It will have been cast into the lake if fire. 

Ive been planning a vacation for this time period. 

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@Dennis1209 

Rev 9:13  And the sixth angel sounded his trumpet. And I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar before God, 

Rev 9:14  saying to the sixth angel who had the trumpet, Loose the four angels who are bound at the great river Euphrates. 

 

Rev 16:12  And the sixth angel poured out his vial on the great river Euphrates. And its water was dried up, so that the way of the kings from the rising of the sun might be prepared. 

Rev 16:13  And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 

Rev 16:14  For they are spirits of demons, working miracles, which go forth to the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that day, the great day of God Almighty. 

Just some other examples of this idea ... 

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8 minutes ago, George said:

I love your zeal, but it's way out of context of the passage and your trying to assert events into the passage that never should be.

Read Isaiah 66 and you'll understand what they are going to sacrifice...

Isa 66:1  Thus says the LORD: “Heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool; what is the house that you would build for me, and what is the place of my rest? 

Isa 66:2  All these things my hand has made, and so all these things came to be, declares the LORD. But this is the one to whom I will look: he who is humble and contrite in spirit and trembles at my word. 

Isa 66:3  He who kills an ox is is as if he killed a man; he who sacrifices a lamb is as if he broke a dog's neck; he who offers an offering is as if he offered swine's blood; he who burns incense is as if he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delights in their abominations. 

Isa 66:4  I also will choose the things that delude them, and I will bring their fears on them, because I called, no one answered; when I spoke, they did not hear. But they did evil before My eyes and chose that in which I did not delight. 

This is a picture of the abomination of desolation ... as well as the great delusion in 2 Thes 2!

Be blessed,

George

Oh, not only do I expect the draft to be abolished in Israel.

I also expect the land to be devided.

https://biblehub.com/kjv/daniel/11-39.htm

And I've expected the embassy to be moved to Jerusalem for about 20 years now. 

https://biblehub.com/kjv/daniel/11-45.htm

 

Yea I'm expecting it all. 

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