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On 9/1/2022 at 11:29 AM, Shilohsfoal said:

Revelation say Babylon is a city. Not the world. 

 

No it doesn't, God STATES SPECIFICALLY in Rev. 16:19 that He has just given the Wine-press of His Wrath, unto those Jesus defeats at the 7th Vial, whom He calls Babylon the Great now do the simple thing and LOOK BACK at who Jesus defeated via the 6th Vial that tells us who it was that GATHERED at Armageddon.

The problem is people not called unto Prophesy or reading other men's books before God REVEALED these End Time Understanding's have no ability to hear the Holy Spirits fresh teachings because they have old ideas in their minds which BLOCK the Holy Spirits effort to teach us. 

You take Rev. 17 and misconstrue what the holy spirit is teaching brother. 

Listen, I had just done a blog saying that Rome was THAT CITY, and I had to tear it up and start over because of a promise I made God because of a prayer I had just prayed a couple of months earlier. I had prayed this, "Lord, why is it you called me unto end time prophesy, specifically, but not only am I stuck in a rut after 30 years, but the Church in general has 100's of interpretations of who the 144,000 are, who Babylon is, what the Beast means, etc. etc. so why is the Church so confused in these END TIMES when you said in Daniel that in the very End Times you would reveal all things and pour out your spirit on us?" And I got this:

"Ron, you guys already know it all !!" 

And I knew instantly what God/Holy Spirit was saying, we are BLOCKING Him from teaching us by hanging on to Men's Traditions of old. So, I had just written my blog saying THAT CITY, Babylon was Rome, and because I had just promised God (SEE ABOVE) I would not hold onto old traditions that block His teachings I heard the Holy Spirit say very clearly, "Ron, you are wrong, THAT CITY, is referring to The Harlots Association with Babylon, and thus the Harlot was All False Religion of ALL TIME. She was renown in Babylon, she was the Mother of Harlotry, and God HATES all worship of any false gods because its seen by Him as an Abomination. So, I relooked at it, and the VISION only lasts for 4 verses: 

Rev. 17:3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and (1)I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having (2)seven heads and ten horns. 4 And the woman was arrayed in (3)purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:

5 And upon her forehead was a name written, (4)Mystery, Babylon The Great, The Mother Of Harlots And Abominations Of The Earth. 6 And (5) I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, AND with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.

1.) So, the Scarlet Color always represents Religious Orders and Government Royalty, not the RCC per se. This is a well known fact, Scarlet and Purple were expensive colors to create thus they were worn by Religious Orders and Royalty. So, all these false prophets of Jupiter, Zeus and even the real High Priests of Israel all wore these colors, as did the Roman Army and other Gov. entities. 

2.) The 7 Heads and 10 Horns represents Gov. Beasts over Israel and the whole Mediterranean Sea Region.

3.) She's decked out in Scarlet and Purple which designates who she is. 

5.) I will do #4 BELOW: This Woman equals ALL False Religion of ALL TIME, because she not only has the blood of the Martyrs of Jesus on her hands, but she has the blood of the Jewish Saints on her hands also. Now #4 can be explained in full. 

4.) See BELOW:

Mystery is a HEADER, not one of the Harlots descriptors. (Like unto a QUESTION MARK)

A.) Babylon: is where the Harlot (False Religion) is MOST NOTED in all of history, she is associated with Babylon and its many false gods.

B.) Mother of Harlots: False Religion is the original Harlotry of men.

C.) Abominations of all the earth: God HATES False Religion, He is a jealous God, thus He sees any false religion as an Abomination, thus all false god worship worldwide is an Abomination unto God.

Its not a CITY, its a CLUE unto who the Harlot is, one of three clues that DESCRIBES who she is. Babylon, Mother of Harlots AND Abominations of all the Earth are like a Harlot of old wearing a HEADBAND that signified who she was, so her customers would understand when they saw her headband, it was her, thus her clientele could pick her out of the crowd. God does the same thing here with THREE DESCRIPTORS.

Its not Babylon, that is just a CLUE unto who the Harlot is.  ALL False Religion of ALL TIME. 

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15 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

No it doesn't, God STATES SPECIFICALLY in Rev. 16:19 that He has just given the Wine-press of His Wrath unto those Jesus defeats at the 7th Vial, now do the simple thing and LOOK BACK at who Jesus defeated via the 6th Vial that tells us who it was that GATHERED at Armageddon.

The problem is people not called unto Prophesy or reading other men's books before God REVEALED these End Time Understanding's have no ability to hear the Holy Spirits fresh teachings because they have old ideas in their minds which BLOCK the Holy Spirits effort to teach us. 

You take Rev. 17 and misconstrue what the holy spirit is teaching brother. 

Listen, I had just done a blog saying that Rome was THAT CITY, and I had to tear it up and start over because of a promise I made God because of a prayer I had just prayed a couple of months earlier. I had prayed this, "Lord, why is it you called me unto end time prophesy, specifically, but not only am I stuck in a rut after 30 years, but the Church in general has 100's of interpretations of who the 144,000 are, who Babylon is, what the Beast means, etc. etc. so why is the Church so confused in these END TIMES when you said in Daniel that in the very End Times you would reveal all things and pour out your spirit on us?" And I got this:

"Ron, you guys already know it all !!" 

And I knew instantly what God/Holy Spirit was saying, we are BLOCKING Him from teaching us by hanging on to Men's Traditions of old. So, I had just written my blog saying THAT CITY, Babylon was Rome, and because I had just promised God (SEE ABOVE) I would not hold onto old traditions that block His teachings I heard the Holy Spirit say very clearly, "Ron, you are wrong, THAT CITY, is referring to The Harlots Association with Babylon, and thus the Harlot was All False Religion of ALL TIME. She was renown in Babylon, she was the Mother of Harlotry, and God HATES all worship of any false gods because its seen by Him as an Abomination. So, I relooked at it, and the VISION only lasts for 4 verses: 

Rev. 17:3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and (1)I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having (2)seven heads and ten horns. 4 And the woman was arrayed in (3)purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:

5 And upon her forehead was a name written, (4)Mystery, Babylon The Great, The Mother Of Harlots And Abominations Of The Earth. 6 And (5) I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, AND with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.

1.) So, the Scarlet Color always represents Religious Orders and Government Royalty, not the RCC per se. This is a well now fact, Scarlet and Purple were expensive colors to create thus they were worn by Religious Orders and Royalty. So, all these false prophets of Jupiter, Zeus and even the real High Priests of Israel all wore these colors, as did the Roman Army and other Gov. entities. 

2.) The 7 Heads and 10 Horns represents Gov. Beasts over Israel and the whole Mediterranean Sea Region.

3.) She's decked out in Scarlet and Purple which designates who she is.

5.) I will do #4 BELOW: This Woman equals ALL False Religion of ALL TIME, because she not only has the blood of the Martyrs of Jesus on her hands, but she has the blood of the Jewish Saints on her hands also. Now #4 can be explained in full. 

4.) See BELOW:

Mystery is a HEADER, not one of the Harlots designators. (Like unto a QUESTION MARK)

A.) Babylon: is where the Harlot (False Religion) is MOST NOTED in all of history, she is associated with Babylon.

B.) Mother of Harlots: False Religion is the original Harlotry of men.

C.) Abominations of al the earth: God HATES false religion, He is a jealous God, thus He sees any false religion as an Abomination, thus all false god worship worldwide is an Abomination unto God.

Its not a CITY, its a CLUE unto who the Harlot is, one of three clues that DESIGNATES who she is. Babylon, Mother of Harlots AND Abominations of all the Earth are like a Harlot of old wearing a HEADBAND that signified who she was, so her customers would understand when they saw her headband, it was her, thus her clientele could designate her.

Its not Babylon, that is just a CLUE unto who the Harlot is.  ALL False Religion of ALL TIME. 

Yes, Revelation says the horlot sitti g upon the beast is a city. Not the world. 

It is described as a city the sits upon seven hills. It is des robed as the city that rules over the kings of the earth. 

And no, that city is not Rome. 

 

It's not that hard to understand. Maybe someday you will fiqure it out. You may not understand till after the beast has attacked and taken control of Jerusalem since you are having a difficult time, but I hope you will understand sometime,even if you have to wait untill then. 

 


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7 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

Yes, Revelation says the horlot sitti g upon the beast is a city. Not the world. 

It is described as a city the sits upon seven hills. It is des robed as the city that rules over the kings of the earth. 

And no, that city is not Rome. 

 

It's not that hard to understand. Maybe someday you will fiqure it out. You may not understand till after the beast has attacked and taken control of Jerusalem since you are having a difficult time, but I hope you will understand sometime,even if you have to wait untill then. 

Nor is it Jerusalem, the same crowds who say the Pope ad RCC are the Beast/False Prophet go down the same paths via Rome, then you have the Joel Richardson crowd who thinks the A.C. will be a Muslim/Islamicist. The Holy Spirit says none of thar, the holy spirit sys this, he has to be an Assyrian (Isaiah ch. 10), he has to be born in Greece (Dan. 8:9) AND he has to arise to power out of the Fourth Beasts where the 10 (Complete E.U.) arise in the last days. ALL THREE have to be true. 

You guys go down the same wrong turns with Jerusalem, of course when a peoples fell, and fell, and fell, and fell, God was always going to call them a Harlot peoples with stiff necks. But Jerusalem is NOT the Harlot, the Harlot is easy to understand,  just explained it to you, but you have those old ideas that didn't come from you, I know because I heard them over 30 years ago, and discounted them.

Jerusalem is not going to e burned Jesua will rule fro  there. At no time is God going t burn ONE CITY, He is going to judge the WHOLE WORLD. Like I statd Rev . 16:19 is God SPECIFICALLY SAYING that Babylon the Great just got the Wine-press of His wrath, and God CAN NOT LIE...........CAN HE? Well, who was it? Vial #6 tells us t was the Kings of the WHOLE WORLD !!

Our own vain ideas will not stand, we must push them aside, as I did the Rome idea. I never thought Rome was the Beast nor False Prophet, I was still at the time looking for the end tine capital, but when I understood the 10 means COMPLETE Europe, that solved that issue, the Romans of the End Times are simply Europeans.

You read a book full of metaphors and codes and you don't understand the codes !!!


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22 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

Nor is it Jerusalem, the same crowds who say the Pope ad RCC are the Beast/False Prophet go down the same paths via Rome, then you have the Joel Richardson crowd who thinks the A.C. will be a Muslim/Islamicist. The Holy Spirit says none of thar, the holy spirit sys this, he has to be an Assyrian (Isaiah ch. 10), he has to be born in Greece (Dan. 8:9) AND he has to arise to power out of the Fourth Beasts where the 10 (Complete E.U.) arise in the last days. ALL THREE have to be true. 

You guys go down the same wrong turns with Jerusalem, of course when a peoples fell, and fell, and fell, and fell, God was always going to call them a Harlot peoples with stiff necks. But Jerusalem is NOT the Harlot, the Harlot is easy to understand,  just explained it to you, but you have those old ideas that didn't come from you, I know because I heard them over 30 years ago, and discounted them.

Jerusalem is not going to e burned Jesua will rule fro  there. At no time is God going t burn ONE CITY, He is going to judge the WHOLE WORLD. Like I statd Rev . 16:19 is God SPECIFICALLY SAYING that Babylon the Great just got the Wine-press of His wrath, and God CAN NOT LIE...........CAN HE? Well, who was it? Vial #6 tells us t was the Kings of the WHOLE WORLD !!

Our own vain ideas will not stand, we must push them aside, as I did the Rome idea. I never thought Rome was the Beast nor False Prophet, I was still at the time looking for the end tine capital, but when I understood the 10 means COMPLETE Europe, that solved that issue, the Romans of the End Times are simply Europeans.

You read a book full of metaphors and codes and you don't understand the codes !!!

According to revelation, the ten Kings who give thier strength to the beast hate the prostitute. 

Then the beast attacks Jerusalem. 

One only needs alittle common sense to understand why the beast attacks Jerusalem. Just alittle. 


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On 8/6/2022 at 9:42 PM, B-B said:

..could this be interpreted to mean that these folk are experiencing a false sense of security/stability....as it may refer to the 'first half of the seven years...' ? They may be under the false protection of the AC?

Hi B-B

These folk know they are living securely because this prophecy concerns Israel at the end of the 1000 yr reign of Christ ruling with the resurrected saints. 

No walls or bars needed because Israel who are in the flesh are living with a wall of truth around them where no evil can get in.  The city is protected.

With that truth and obedience towards Christ comes protection.  Ezekiel 38 is the end of that next era, prophesied early, way in advance for a witness.  This second great war after the thousand years will be the finale and Satan's end.  All who follow him will receive the same plagues that happened a thousand years before.

So no wars during that time until Satan is released from prison and stirs up Gog to lead the armies against Israel.  All generations, Jews and Gentiles who will be born during the thousand years have not known war, and will experience it for their first time.  Gog and his armies will not set foot in Israel, but will only surround it before they are killed. 

 

 


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On 8/6/2022 at 9:47 PM, B-B said:

...isn't this referring to the future invasion of Israel...in the last 3.5 years? See from verse 14: 

No, it's a completely different era - a thousand years later.

A thousand years earlier, Israel were invaded, and occupied, and experienced war because they did not believe in Christ. 

This next war is different.  The armies won't get in because they have been serving Christ and know their Lord know.  They now worship God in spirit and in truth, through Christ.


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5 hours ago, Sister said:

Hi B-B

These folk know they are living securely because this prophecy concerns Israel at the end of the 1000 yr reign of Christ ruling with the resurrected saints. 

No walls or bars needed because Israel who are in the flesh are living with a wall of truth around them where no evil can get in.  The city is protected.

With that truth and obedience towards Christ comes protection.  Ezekiel 38 is the end of that next era, prophesied early, way in advance for a witness.  This second great war after the thousand years will be the finale and Satan's end.  All who follow him will receive the same plagues that happened a thousand years before.

So no wars during that time until Satan is released from prison and stirs up Gog to lead the armies against Israel.  All generations, Jews and Gentiles who will be born during the thousand years have not known war, and will experience it for their first time.  Gog and his armies will not set foot in Israel, but will only surround it before they are killed. 

 

 

Thanks for sharing your thoughts/opinion/view


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5 hours ago, Sister said:

No, it's a completely different era - a thousand years later.

A thousand years earlier, Israel were invaded, and occupied, and experienced war because they did not believe in Christ. 

This next war is different.  The armies won't get in because they have been serving Christ and know their Lord know.  They now worship God in spirit and in truth, through Christ.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts/opinion/view


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Thank you B-B

It is written.  Satan will be put away at the 7th trump, at Christ's 2nd Coming, right before the 1st resurrection.  He cannot deceive the nations again until the 1000 yrs has expired.

After that 1000 years Satan will cause the Gog and Magog war.  Rev 20 gives the timing, Ezekiel 38 gives the details.  Not just my opinion, but it is written.

God bless.

 

 

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