JAG** Posted August 11, 2022 Group: Senior Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 105 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 541 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 207 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/06/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted August 11, 2022 Many of our intellectual problems and difficult questions can be pleasantly and reassuringly stored here: "The secret things belong to the Lord our God, but the things revealed belong to us and our children forever." Deuteronomy 29:29 And . . . Regarding some questions the Lord Jesus said: "It is not for you to know." Acts 1:7 And . . . Not even the great Apostle Paul had all the answers: "Now I know in part" __Paul 1 Corinthians 13:12 We will get the answers to our difficult questions when we get home to Heaven. Meanwhile we wait patiently and we "Have faith in God"__ The Lord Jesus (Mark 11:22) Thoughts? [] 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnOrangeCat Posted August 11, 2022 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 57 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,412 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 1,833 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/24/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted August 11, 2022 I've long accepted that there are points of doctrine and Biblical history that have been debated since well before my birth and they'll continue to be debated after my earthly existence is over. Nothing to really add to this, just an amen. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sower Posted August 12, 2022 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 14 Topic Count: 32 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,262 Content Per Day: 0.97 Reputation: 5,874 Days Won: 1 Joined: 07/09/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted August 12, 2022 7 hours ago, AnOrangeCat said: I've long accepted that there are points of doctrine and Biblical history that have been debated since well before my birth and they'll continue to be debated after my earthly existence is over. Nothing to really add to this, just an amen. And Amen...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keiw1 Posted August 12, 2022 Group: Non-Trinitarian Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 45 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 10 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/17/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted August 12, 2022 7 hours ago, JAG** said: Many of our intellectual problems and difficult questions can be pleasantly and reassuringly stored here: "The secret things belong to the Lord our God, but the things revealed belong to us and our children forever." Deuteronomy 29:29 And . . . Regarding some questions the Lord Jesus said: "It is not for you to know." Acts 1:7 And . . . Not even the great Apostle Paul had all the answers: "Now I know in part" __Paul 1 Corinthians 13:12 We will get the answers to our difficult questions when we get home to Heaven. Meanwhile we wait patiently and we "Have faith in God"__ The Lord Jesus (Mark 11:22) Thoughts? [] The only ones promised heaven in the bible are the little flock( Luke 12:32) these make up the 144,000( Rev 14:3) these will rule as kings and priests on thrones beside Jesus( Rev 1:6, Rev 20:6) these are numbered--The great crowd of other sheep which no man can number are not promised heaven any where in the bible. Since those 2 groups make up one flock that belongs to Jesus, they are the only ones brought into Gods kingdom from the trib and armageddon. But one of the groups, the one no man can number gets these promises-Matt 5:5. Psalm 37:29, Prov 2:21-22, Matt 24:22--The earth not heaven. The little flock is numbered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted August 12, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,992 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,690 Content Per Day: 11.79 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted August 12, 2022 8 hours ago, JAG** said: Many of our intellectual problems and difficult questions can be pleasantly and reassuringly stored here: "The secret things belong to the Lord our God, but the things revealed belong to us and our children forever." Deuteronomy 29:29 And . . . Regarding some questions the Lord Jesus said: "It is not for you to know." Acts 1:7 And . . . Not even the great Apostle Paul had all the answers: "Now I know in part" __Paul 1 Corinthians 13:12 We will get the answers to our difficult questions when we get home to Heaven. Meanwhile we wait patiently and we "Have faith in God"__ The Lord Jesus (Mark 11:22) Thoughts? [] I think a lot of our questions will be answered when we get to heaven. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted August 12, 2022 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 598 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,173 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,902 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted August 12, 2022 i'm not sure we will be interested in those questions when we get there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted August 12, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,992 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,690 Content Per Day: 11.79 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted August 12, 2022 2 hours ago, other one said: i'm not sure we will be interested in those questions when we get there. No one knows until they get there. I think there will be many surprises in heaven. Good ones 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis1209 Posted August 12, 2022 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 347 Topics Per Day: 0.13 Content Count: 7,482 Content Per Day: 2.70 Reputation: 5,384 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/27/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted August 12, 2022 My thoughts and speculations: Only our Triune Lord are omniscient and ever active. I understand that we will be equal to the heavenly angels, one family working and worshipping in the eternal state. I surmise the family of God will be learning, admiring, worshipping God, and conducting our assigned work and responsibilities throughout eternity. 1 Corinthians 13:12 (KJV) For now we see through a glass [mirror], darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. [emphasis added]. When we see Jesus face-to-face, we will know Him as He knows us. Our knowledge will be free from all obscurities and errors. I believe this also infers we will immediately recognize everyone in heaven. How did Peter, John, and James immediately recognize Moses & Elijah at Jesus’s transfiguration? I think some things we will be granted to know immediately. It does not appear that our tears will be immediately wiped away at our Rapture- Resurrection. At or before the wedding of the Lamb, will we notice some of our loved ones are missing? 1 Peter 1:12 (KJV) Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into. [emphasis added]. I reason our heavenly family, and we will be ever learning throughout all of eternity. Hebrews 2:7 (KJV) Thou madest him a little lower than the angels; thou crownedst him with glory and honour, and didst set him over the works of thy hands: The above verse also applies to Jesus’s incarnation in the flesh and humankind. At present, angels are far more powerful and knowledgeable. If we are to be equal with the heavenly angels, it seems we would need the same knowledge they have accumulated and learned throughout their existence. I wonder where the idea of floating on a white cloud playing the harp came from? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG** Posted August 12, 2022 Group: Senior Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 105 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 541 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 207 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/06/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 12, 2022 4 hours ago, Dennis1209 said: My thoughts and speculations: Only our Triune Lord are omniscient and ever active. I understand that we will be equal to the heavenly angels, one family working and worshipping in the eternal state. I surmise the family of God will be learning, admiring, worshipping God, and conducting our assigned work and responsibilities throughout eternity. 1 Corinthians 13:12 (KJV) For now we see through a glass [mirror], darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. [emphasis added]. When we see Jesus face-to-face, we will know Him as He knows us. Our knowledge will be free from all obscurities and errors. I believe this also infers we will immediately recognize everyone in heaven. How did Peter, John, and James immediately recognize Moses & Elijah at Jesus’s transfiguration? I think some things we will be granted to know immediately. It does not appear that our tears will be immediately wiped away at our Rapture- Resurrection. At or before the wedding of the Lamb, will we notice some of our loved ones are missing? 1 Peter 1:12 (KJV) Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into. [emphasis added]. I reason our heavenly family, and we will be ever learning throughout all of eternity. Hebrews 2:7 (KJV) Thou madest him a little lower than the angels; thou crownedst him with glory and honour, and didst set him over the works of thy hands: The above verse also applies to Jesus’s incarnation in the flesh and humankind. At present, angels are far more powerful and knowledgeable. If we are to be equal with the heavenly angels, it seems we would need the same knowledge they have accumulated and learned throughout their existence. I wonder where the idea of floating on a white cloud playing the harp came from? Thanks for the interesting response. God bless. JAG [] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayne Posted August 12, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 107 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3,823 Content Per Day: 1.29 Reputation: 4,812 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/31/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted August 12, 2022 12 hours ago, other one said: i'm not sure we will be interested in those questions when we get there. I think you are absolutely right. If people, in heaven are STILL interested in "who wins" - the Calvinist or the Arminian - I think they will be unhappy there. People aren't going to line up and ask God all the unimportant things that they forced to be important here. Who was Cain's wife? Why did little children suffer from hunger and disease? Yes, we are curious about things, but I think when we are gathered there, we will be still, prostrate, and silent. God will speak and it will be wonderful and there will be no looking back. If there is something we will need to know, he will tell us. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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