God is not a laundry service that wash your sins in two hours and then you become clean and fragrant.

[Dan Knight]

13 minutes ago, JimmyB said:

Regarding the OP...

God is not a laundry service that washes your sins in two hours and then you become clean.  It doesn't take Him that long.  In fact, it's instantaneous.

You believe and you are instantly saved and begin to lead a new life.  Your sin is no longer counted against you.

Believe what? And of repentance? 

Edited September 15, 2022 by Dan Knight

[Dan Knight]

Just now, Dan Knight said:

Believe what? 

We believe,  however for those who don't yet, what we should tell them should be complete.  My question is to add to our testimonials and answer questions as required. 

[JimmyB]

2 minutes ago, Dan Knight said:

Believe what? 

Believe that you have sinned and should pay the price -- death,  Then you learned that there is someone else -- Jesus Christ -- who has paid your penalty, substituting His death for yours.  Because He did that, you are now regarded by God as being without sin and have eternal life.  Hallelujah!!!

[Dan Knight]

1 minute ago, JimmyB said:

Believe that you have sinned and should pay the price -- death,  Then you learned that there is someone else -- Jesus Christ -- who has paid your penalty, substituting His death for yours.  Because He did that, you are now regarded by God as being without sin and have eternal life.  Hallelujah!!!

Agreed brother.  

Bear with me but for a moment. 

There is a variety of definitions of the state of death. Some call it as eternally conscience of separation from God. This implies that humans are eternal beings that will be burning in hell forever or in Peace  with God forever. 

Some understand death as 1st and second death, the first being a sleep. The second being un-existed.

Some say the unborn that perish go straight to heaven,  which implies that there is another way to get to heaven.  

Others say that the unborn are in a state of limbo.  Never die, never burn in hell, but never see God. 

What say you?

[Dan Knight]

17 hours ago, JimmyB said:

There is no "tree of death" in my Bible.  It's an invented, unScriptural term.

True. 

[JimmyB]

22 minutes ago, Dan Knight said:

Agreed brother.  

Bear with me but for a moment. 

There is a variety of definitions of the state of death. Some call it as eternally conscience of separation from God. This implies that humans are eternal beings that will be burning in hell forever or in Peace  with God forever. 

Some understand death as 1st and second death, the first being a sleep. The second being un-existed.

Some say the unborn that perish go straight to heaven,  which implies that there is another way to get to heaven.  

Others say that the unborn are in a state of limbo.  Never die, never burn in hell, but never see God. 

What say you?

Well, that takes some thought... Basically, I believe that life is an illusion.  We have an awareness of existing -- being, thinking, having emotions -- but it is equivalent to being in some sort of spiritual womb.  When we die, we progress to another state of being, either with God eternally or being without God eternally.  While in this life, once we become aware, we have the choice about which state we choose for eternity.

Regarding the unborn... I believe that until they are born they don't have a life of their own.  They are in a stage of development but are entirely dependent on the mother for their existence.  For instance, if she dies suddenly and there is no immediate medical care, then the fetus dies also, since it has no ability to survive on its own.

That is "off the top of my head".  I will have to think more deeply about this for a while.

Edited September 15, 2022 by JimmyB

[Dan Knight]

4 minutes ago, JimmyB said:

Well, that takes some thought... Basically, I believe that life is an illusion.  We have an awareness of existing -- being, thinking, having emotions -- but it is equivalent to being in some sort of spiritual womb.  When we die, we progress to another state of being, either with God eternally or being without God eternally.  While in this life, once we become aware, we have the choice about which state we choose for eternity.

That is "off the top of my head".  I will have to think more deeply about this for a while.

Understood.

[JimmyB]

1 minute ago, Dan Knight said:

Understood.

I just edited it so you might want to read the newest version.  As I said, I will hgave to think more about this.

[JimmyB]

BTW, I am 79 years old, so the questions of eternal life and death are certainly in my thinking.  I was born a Jew, was Bar Mitzvah at 13, then became an atheist for quite a few years (God never answered my prayers).  Years later, a pastor used to come visit us and we had some spirited arguments about God, Jesus, religion, etc.  At age 34, I had a very severe asthma attack and was hospitalized.  She came to the hospital, read some Scripture (Matthew 11:28-30) then prayed "Jesus, heal this man".  I was immediately healed and knew Jesus was my Savior.  Three days later I received my prayer language and began speaking in tongues, something I do to this day. A while later, I was baptized in a local lake.

Shortly afterwards, my wife and I enrolled in a Bible college and began to attend a nondenominational church.  I have been a very serious Christian for 45 years and, although I have not attended church since COVID appeared, I continue to read the Bible and pray every day.

Edited September 15, 2022 by JimmyB

[Your closest friendnt]

18 hours ago, JimmyB said:

There is no "tree of death" in my Bible.  It's an invented, unScriptural term.

Then what kind of a tree the bible says it is? 

It's fruit gave death to Adam...